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Dafos 07-16-2012 07:00 AM

Magico Mini w/ JL audio
 
I posted in a different thread about my apprehensions on using my Magico Mini full range aided by a single JL Audio F 113 but that's a whole different aspect of adding subs to a system.

But regarding the marriage, it's truly awesome. Started at a crossover point of 45hz and sound noticeably thickened. Down to 40hz, much better but a trusted friend and I felt it was slowing down the music. So down to 35 hz and at flat attenuation setting it's almost hard to detect the presence of the sub unless the music contains the low frequencies. I don't detect any effect the sub has on the mini's great midrange and if anything, for some reason, the sound seems to have improved across the board save for perhaps the treble region. Soundstage size on some material has really expanded big time and images are now so life like realistically sized. One benefit I want to reiterate is that I seem to be able to play the system louder without strain and this in fact was the thrust of my I initial concern, that louder playback levels may cause me to damage the Minis. While I cannot say that the marriage is perfectly seamless, I've heard full range speakers that had much worse bass integration problems. Since I'm new to subs, I'd like to ask for more feedback from others who've mated subs to their speakers, be they full range or mini monitors.

jdebonth 07-17-2012 07:25 AM

I too love the monitor + subs approach. The ultimate in flexibility and bass response optimization. I run the TAD CR1's with a pair of REL G1's crossed over at 20Hz (resulting in a nicely flat response to 15Hz).

Do you measure you run to confirm the sub integration? IMO this is the only way to do it right.

bart 07-17-2012 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jdebonth (Post 337962)
I too love the monitor + subs approach. The ultimate in flexibility and bass response optimization. I run the TAD CR1's with a pair of REL G1's crossed over at 20Hz (resulting in a nicely flat response to 15Hz).

Do you measure you run to confirm the sub integration? IMO this is the only way to do it right.

20 Hz seems very low Joost.
Do the Tads go so deep down before they start to roll off?

jdebonth 07-17-2012 10:59 AM

The CR1's are flat down to 30Hz. The G1's have a very shallow cut-off being a sealed design. I find that @ 20Hz I get the most seamless blend (based on room measurements). At 25Hz for example, both speakers add up to full output and the freq response is as flat as I can get in my room.

bart 07-17-2012 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jdebonth (Post 337982)
The CR1's are flat down to 30Hz. The G1's have a very shallow cut-off being a sealed design. I find that @ 20Hz I get the most seamless blend (based on room measurements). At 25Hz for example, both speakers add up to full output and the freq response is as flat as I can get in my room.

OK.
Thanks.

Dafos 07-18-2012 03:46 AM

May I know where This thread is suppose to continue? Can't seem to find it under JL audio

KingRT 07-24-2012 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dafos (Post 338271)
May I know where This thread is suppose to continue? Can't seem to find it under JL audio

JL would tell you to raise it to 80hz as they believe a JL sub is designed to play better circa. 80hz and below than a speaker.
Carl Kennedy

Forget a double bass and buy a great crossover. Huge integration difference and free's up your amps with no boom effect of the double bass.


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