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FreddieFerric 03-20-2019 08:34 PM

Rockport Lyra
 
Sadly, we don't have a Rockport Technologies specific thread in the Manufacturers section, but I was truly wowed by the Rockport/Constellation exhibit at RMAF last October. I ran across this Youtube vid and these Lyra's must be absolutely astounding. I'd love to hear them even though I could never afford the $169,000 price tag they carry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-TjOCuFZcU

GSOphile 03-20-2019 08:45 PM

Their more affordable speakers aren't exactly chopped liver either. Wish we had a dealer within a couple of hours, but I'm guessing Andy Payor isn't particularly interested in building unit volumes to support an expanded dealer network.

audioguy3107 03-20-2019 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FreddieFerric (Post 958023)
Sadly, we don't have a Rockport Technologies specific thread in the Manufacturers section, but I was truly wowed by the Rockport/Constellation exhibit at RMAF last October. I ran across this Youtube vid and these Lyra's must be absolutely astounding. I'd love to hear them even though I could never afford the $169,000 price tag they carry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-TjOCuFZcU

Freddie - I was hoping to hear a pair of Lyras there too, the press on them has been stellar. I thought the Constellation room sounded good too, but we were less impressed with the Rockport/CH Precision room upstairs. We asked them to play the MOFI pressing of Keb Mo's debut album on vinyl which we were all familiar and it just didn't sound very good. You would have to think it was the room when considering the price of the equipment but who knows. Marc and I even mentioned the room to a couple of guys from The Absolute Sound and they thought the same as us.....weren't impressed. Anyway, I bet the Lyra's would sound stunning in a nice setup.

- Buck

SuperD 03-20-2019 10:19 PM

I’m going to hear them in April powered by Nagra HD at my dealers place. The cabinet is an engineering marvel IMO. I can’t wait!!

PlanarSpeakerFan 03-21-2019 07:45 AM

AA member “cmarin” owns the Rockport Lyra’s along with the VAC Statement monoblocks. Maybe he will chime in and discuss their performance.

Ken

bart 03-21-2019 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PlanarSpeakerFan (Post 958050)
AA member “cmarin” owns the Rockport Lyra’s along with the VAC Statement monoblocks. Maybe he will chime in and discuss their performance.

Ken


Yes, and he comes from Magico Q7 MkII... :yes:

FreddieFerric 03-21-2019 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by audioguy3107 (Post 958030)
Freddie - I was hoping to hear a pair of Lyras there too, the press on them has been stellar. I thought the Constellation room sounded good too, but we were less impressed with the Rockport/CH Precision room upstairs. We asked them to play the MOFI pressing of Keb Mo's debut album on vinyl which we were all familiar and it just didn't sound very good. You would have to think it was the room when considering the price of the equipment but who knows. Marc and I even mentioned the room to a couple of guys from The Absolute Sound and they thought the same as us.....weren't impressed. Anyway, I bet the Lyra's would sound stunning in a nice setup.

- Buck

It's all about synergy in system integration. Perhaps the Rockport's and CH Precision just don't like each other. When I visited the downstairs room the first time, the exhibitor was playing some Fleetwood Mac tunes that really just sounded like HiFi. He asked me what I wanted to hear and I asked him to play something from The Fairfield Four - Standing in the Safety Zone. Once I cajoled him to pump up the volume, those Rockport's really shined. The exhibitor knew it too. I left very impressed. The next day I happened by and there were about 8 people sitting in there and guess what...He was playing that same song. That put a smile on my face.

Anyway, I'm hoping at least one pair of Lyra's makes it to RMAF this year. :yes:

cmarin 03-22-2019 12:02 PM

Rockport Lyra
 
Hi Ken,

Yes I’ve had a pair of Rockport Lyras since August of last year.

And yes it’s all about synergy in system integration including the room and incoming power.

But let me bore you with a few details of my experience with the Lyras.

First, I’ve had a number of speakers over the years including Magico V3s, Magico M5s, Magico Q7s and the Magico Q7mkIIs.

I’ve also had the opportunity, due to the kind and generous spirit of several dealers and friends, for extended auditions in my room of the Raidho D5.1s and the Aries Cerat Symphonias.

Throughout that journey I’ve had multiple electronics, two different rooms and associated acoustic treatments, different power cords and interconnects, and power conditioners to name a few of the variables.

So it’s hard to compare speakers consistently except during the last year or so when the upstream components (room, power, electronics, power conditioning etc) were the same for the Magico Q7mkIIs, AC Symphonias and the Rockport Lyras:

Kodo The Beat TT with Lyra Atlas Cart and LT Schroder (magnesium) arm; Kalista Dreamplayer Transport; SGM mkII server; TotalDac d1-12 MkII DAC; CH Precision (4 box) mono preamp with power supplies; CH Precision (2 box) stereo phono with power supplies; VAC Statement 450iQ monoblocks; Echole Omnia LE power cords and ICs; and a pair of 512 Engineering/Tim Marutani balanced transformers (one for sources and the other for amps) in a dedicated acoustically designed room.

The Symphonias had an “aliveness” unmatched by the Q7s that created a wonderful musical engagement.

But in the end, the Lyras proved a transformative speaker.

With the Lyras it was no longer an experience related to specific performance indicators such as soundstage size, precision of images, tightness of bass etc., but rather about an immersive musical gestalt. Although the other speakers had that as well, the Lyras had the right brain versus left brain musical experience, which I had been searching for many years, in abundance.

Of course you can never duplicate a live performance in your room. But with the Lyras it was as close as I’ve ever experienced in my room and with the associated equipment.

But I also want to mention that, at least in my case, what probably had the most significant impact to the overall sound of the Lyras, in addition to the balanced transformers, was the expert speaker setup provided by Stirling Trayle.

Although the Lyras sounded great with the initial setup after they were uncreated, it wasn’t until after Stirling’s obsessive setup that the real transformative magic appeared.

So it’s not surprising when you read reports that the Lyras may not sound great in show conditions or even other rooms. Too many variables.

But don’t let that lead you astray. The Lyras are an amazing speaker. And they pair beautifully with the VAC 450 monos.

Andy Payor deserves a lot of credit for his achievement.

SuperD 03-22-2019 01:27 PM

Thanks for that! I've heard a few similar descriptions but hearing is believing in this case. I'll find out soon enough. That is an amazing system you have built, glad you're enjoying it. Music always sounds better when I take my head out of it.

Dave

bart 03-23-2019 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperDave (Post 958172)
Thanks for that! I've heard a few similar descriptions but hearing is believing in this case. I'll find out soon enough. That is an amazing system you have built, glad you're enjoying it. Music always sounds better when I take my head out of it.

Dave


Yes indeed!
Congratulations Carlos, and thank you for your honest description. :thumbsup:


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