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PHC1 06-11-2018 03:24 PM

VPI Fatboy Tonearm
 
The Fatboy Tonearm is available both in a Uni-Pivot style and a Gimbaled style and in all lengths (9, 10, 12). The Fatboy can be used with VPI's current production turntables and their legacy turntables that support their current VTA Base both standard and on the Fly.

Noticed that an online dealer is offering the following. I imagine this "trade in" is for all VPI dealers? :scratch2:

Take advantage of the VPI Tonearm Trade in Program and save:

Trade in your JMW-10-3D - Save $1349 on Fatboy!
Trade in your JMW-10-3DR- Save $1724 on Fatboy!
Trade in your JMW-12-3D - Save $1784 on Fatboy!
Trade in your JMW-12-3DR - Save $2399 on Fatboy!

https://www.soundstagedirect.com/med...vpi_fatboy.jpg

Maks 06-16-2018 04:31 PM

I'd like to hear some reviews, I picked up a 3D arm direct from Harry on the cheap, but even with a discount + trade-in that's a bit of a steep price IMO. I'm pretty sure that's more than I paid for my Classic 2.

miner 06-18-2018 09:14 PM

Yes around $2400 with 10” 3D trade in. All Fatboys the same price regardless of length.

vego99 06-19-2018 12:28 PM

I am really curious to hear the 12" Fatboy arm and it is even more interesting to me because of its ability to be more compatible with a wider range of carts due to its higher effective mass of 12g.

My 12" 3D arm has an effective mass of 7.4g and find it very difficult to find compatible high compliance cartridges that match the arm correctly.

miner 06-26-2018 09:49 AM

My 10" 3D are has an effective mass of 10g yet your longer arm is lighter?

vego99 06-26-2018 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miner (Post 920397)
My 10" 3D are has an effective mass of 10g yet your longer arm is lighter?

Apparently the First Gen arms with the molded in finger lift are very light.

This is the same arm used on the Classic Direct and they state 7.4g in the specs.

Was in contact with Harry Weisfeld about the subject and he confirmed.

It definitely narrows down my choice of cartridges.

miner 07-11-2018 02:46 PM

Just placed my order for the Fatboy - will trade my current 3D 10" towards it. Will put up for sale my second 3D arm I was keeping as a backup for my Ortofon A95.

miner 08-03-2018 09:38 PM

My dealer is going through management change and not answering calls or emails so I have requested a return of funds via PayPal

miner 08-04-2018 02:02 PM

Have been doing business with SoundStageDirect for 10 yrs. - I guess another Amazon casualty. Was offered a nice trade-in offer for my current JMW 10” 3D arm (more than VPI trade-in) so I took the bait. Hook was set and now hopefully PayPal can retrieve my funds.

nalthien 08-04-2018 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miner (Post 925799)
Have been doing business with SoundStageDirect for 10 yrs. - I guess another Amazon casualty. Was offered a nice trade-in offer for my current JMW 10” 3D arm (more than VPI trade-in) so I took the bait. Hook was set and now hopefully PayPal can retrieve my funds.

Wow...that's crazy. Glad I avoided SoundStageDirect!

Maks 08-04-2018 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miner (Post 925799)
Have been doing business with SoundStageDirect for 10 yrs. - I guess another Amazon casualty. Was offered a nice trade-in offer for my current JMW 10” 3D arm (more than VPI trade-in) so I took the bait. Hook was set and now hopefully PayPal can retrieve my funds.

What's going on w/SSD? PM if it's not appropriate to post publicly. I've done a lot of business w/them, over a month ago ordered 3 records that never showed up. Had to ask for my money back. Seth was always a good guy to do business with.

Masterlu 08-05-2018 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maks (Post 925838)
What's going on w/SSD? PM if it's not appropriate to post publicly. I've done a lot of business w/them, over a month ago ordered 3 records that never showed up. Had to ask for my money back. Seth was always a good guy to do business with.

They are done, as in out of business.

nalthien 08-05-2018 03:23 PM

It'd be nice if they noted that on the website (or at least stopped orders).

Masterlu 08-05-2018 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nalthien (Post 925873)
It'd be nice if they noted that on the website (or at least stopped orders).

Check out is blocked; no further orders can be placed.

nalthien 08-05-2018 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masterlu (Post 925879)
Check out is blocked; no further orders can be placed.

Oh--that's good. The site looked totally normal to me (I didn't try anything to do with checkout).

Audiophilehi 08-05-2018 05:21 PM

I've had issues with SoundStageDirect as well. I only ordered LP's but it's always a struggle. I have to email multiple times and finally call to ask why the in stock items haven't been shipped. Even when pre-ordering LPs they never shipped on time.

Bottom line...Never Again!!:no::no:

Maks 08-05-2018 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masterlu (Post 925858)
They are done, as in out of business.

That is a bummer. I checked my PayPal and on July 13th they said they were issuing me a refund, still hasn't come through. Just escalated this to PayPal. It's sad to see one of the great dealers go away.

BillK 08-07-2018 06:40 PM

I had read somewhere that they are technically in "limbo" and that a third party was looking at acquiring the web site and business.

As always, stay tuned, it's about as exciting as whether Krell is still in business any given week. :(

miner 08-25-2018 11:45 AM

VPI Fatboy Tonearm
 
Ivan resurrected my Fatboy soul by giving me the opportunity to trade my current JMW 10” 3D arm.

Thank you sir!

Masterlu 08-25-2018 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miner (Post 928504)
Ivan resurrected my Fatboy soul by giving me the opportunity to trade my current JMW 10” 3D arm.

Thank you sir!

:thankyouspin:

pursuitofnow 10-08-2018 02:56 PM

Any updates? How are folks who had the JMW 10” 3D arm comparing the Fatboy?

miner 10-08-2018 08:55 PM

Awaiting mine to be manufactured

Masterlu 10-08-2018 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miner (Post 934889)
Awaiting mine to be manufactured

Shouldn’t be much longer now.

BillK 10-13-2018 12:19 AM

My dealer said mine should ship sometime next week.

miner 10-16-2018 06:57 AM

Thank you Ivan for the great service

miner 10-22-2018 02:24 PM

Fatboy arrived today! Thank you Ivan for the stellar service, as usual. All audio dealers should be measured by the IMSE - Ivan Messer Standard of Excellence. Now, to keep from drooling over the HW-40 just announced.

Masterlu 10-22-2018 03:07 PM

:thankyouspin:

miner 10-30-2018 08:54 PM

For those who decide to order a Fatboy be sure and tell your dealer the cartridge you will be using.

richardallred 10-31-2018 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miner (Post 938026)
For those who decide to order a Fatboy be sure and tell your dealer the cartridge you will be using.



Interesting, any known cartridge to avoid?

Thanks

R

miner 10-31-2018 08:58 AM

Richard,
I stated the above so the dealer would know which counterweight to order with the Fatboy. I failed to inform my dealer and now we are trying to decipher which one came with my Fatboy (conflicting replies from two members within the manufacturers organization). I need a heavier one and not know for sure which one came with the Fatboy we are not quite sure which one to order (the current CW does not have any engraving on it to tell the wt.). I suppose I could remove and weigh but not sure how to remove safely and I do not have a digital scale to weigh that much wt.

richardallred 10-31-2018 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miner (Post 938093)
Richard,
I stated the above so the dealer would know which counterweight to order with the Fatboy. I failed to inform my dealer and now we are trying to decipher which one came with my Fatboy (conflicting replies from two members within the manufacturers organization). I need a heavier one and not know for sure which one came with the Fatboy we are not quite sure which one to order (the current CW does not have any engraving on it to tell the wt.). I suppose I could remove and weigh but not sure how to remove safely and I do not have a digital scale to weigh that much wt.



Mine came with some extra weights that could be screwed to the back of existing counter weight

R

miner 11-01-2018 01:32 PM

Unusual. Mine did not. I suppose I should check the deep foam crevices to see if they are buried away. Ivan is checking availability of the smaller wts.

Masterlu 11-01-2018 03:20 PM

I’m on it! ;)

http://impuestosblog.com.ar/wp-conte...ncubiertos.jpg

miner 11-02-2018 06:44 PM

Cluseau!

TakeFive 02-17-2019 09:22 PM

Does anyone have any info of the Gimbal Vs. Unipivot fatboy? I know the Gimbal is easier to work with (more stable feel, easier cueing), but wondering how they are in terms of sound.

audio bill 02-17-2019 10:59 PM

Not sure about how they compare in terms of their relative sound, but it's my understanding that the uni-pivot Fatboy includes VPI's Dual Pivot modification, so the arm should be stable and avoid the rocking typical of their earlier uni-pivot arms.

savakntr 02-18-2019 12:16 AM

On my Avenger I have both the unipivot and the gimbal Fatboy 12”. I just love both.
Indeed the gimbal is easier to set (although the azimuth is a bit pain).

savakntr 02-19-2019 12:01 AM

The unipivot rocking is not an issue anymore with the dual pivot upgrade

nc42acc 02-19-2019 09:19 PM

Better bass with the gimbal version

TakeFive 02-20-2019 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nc42acc (Post 953963)
Better bass with the gimbal version


What about the top end sound? Equal or does it favor the unipivot? I know there are pros and cons to each design, but trying find out what those are for each.


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