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2fastdriving 10-10-2017 12:47 PM

Another G-02x finds a home
 
I said I wasn't going to do this, but after what I heard at RMAF and Ivan making it so easy, I buckled. I bought a G-02x.

I believe they showed a G-01x at RMAF, but I could clearly hear the difference when running it into a K-01x vs. using the stock clock. The K-01x has a clock accurate to .5ppm (same as K1, BTW) and the G-02x is accurate to .01ppm. That's quite a bit of improvement. G-01x is actually much more accurate, but I am hoping that I can still hear the improvement from the G-02x.

Thanks Ivan! :thumbsup:

Masterlu 10-10-2017 12:52 PM

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Marc... Congrats! ;)

2fastdriving 10-10-2017 01:05 PM

FYI, in case anyone is interested, the rubidium clock in the G-01x is accurate to 0.00005 ppm! Just crazy.

I hope the G-02x gives similar benefits without breaking the bank.

Does anyone with a G-02x have any thoughts on what I'm in for?

Masterlu 10-10-2017 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 2fastdriving (Post 871233)
FYI, in case anyone is interested, the rubidium clock in the G-01x is accurate to 0.00005 ppm! Just crazy.

I hope the G-02x gives similar benefits without breaking the bank.

Does anyone with a G-02x have any thoughts on what I'm in for?

Yup, I do with my D-02X; it adds width and depth to the sound stage ie: more 3D soundstage.

https://www.audioaficionado.org/atta...1&d=1507655446

jdandy 10-10-2017 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 2fastdriving (Post 871228)
I said I wasn't going to do this, but after what I heard at RMAF and Ivan making it so easy, I buckled. I bought a G-02x.

I believe they showed a G-01x at RMAF, but I could clearly hear the difference when running it into a K-01x vs. using the stock clock. The K-01x has a clock accurate to .5ppm (same as K1, BTW) and the G-02x is accurate to .01ppm. That's quite a bit of improvement. G-01x is actually much more accurate, but I am hoping that I can still hear the improvement from the G-02x.

Thanks Ivan! :thumbsup:

Marc.......There is no doubt you will be able to hear an improvement with the G-02X clock. The 0.5ppm voltage controlled crystal oscillator clock in the K-01X is quite adequate or Esoteric would not be using it in the K-03, K-01, K-03X, K-01X, and K1 DAC/players. Owner testimonies clearly reflect that the performance of these players is very good. None the less, the 0.01ppm accuracy of the Esoteric G-02X clock is an order of magnitude more accurate than the stock clocks. This level of timing accuracy lowers jitter to an even greater extent over the stock clock. Congratulations on the G-02X purchase. Looking forward to your comments once it is installed and the little blue clock LED is lit on your K-01X.


http://www.esoteric.jp/products/esot...x/img/main.jpg

vintage_tube 10-10-2017 01:44 PM

As like any good cable in your system, don't overlook a very good BNC clock cable (impedance appropriate for your unit).

Best Sir,

Bob

docmd2010 10-10-2017 01:48 PM

Congrats! What a great addition! Looking forward to your impressions on this unit. What cables will you be using ?

2fastdriving 10-10-2017 01:50 PM

Getting a WW Silver Starlight BNC to go with it.

SCAudiophile 10-10-2017 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Masterlu (Post 871230)

Great cartoon!!!

Marc: Congratulations!

SCAudiophile 10-10-2017 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 2fastdriving (Post 871240)
Getting a WW Silver Starlight BNC to go with it.

You may wish to think about a Shunyata Clock75 Alpha or Sigma as a great alternative!

2fastdriving 10-10-2017 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SCAudiophile (Post 871248)
You may wish to think about a Shunyata Clock75 Alpha or Sigma as a great alternative!

Why are you not recommending the one you have (Esoteric Mexcel)? I'll stick with the WW for a while before doing anything. Somehow I need to pump the brakes, man.

jdandy 10-10-2017 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 2fastdriving (Post 871250)
Why are you not recommending the one you have (Esoteric Mexcel)? I'll stick with the WW for a while before doing anything. Somehow I need to pump the brakes, man.

Marc.......Gotta tell you, your signature is looking very impressive. . :applause:

2fastdriving 10-10-2017 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jdandy (Post 871251)
Marc.......Gotta tell you, your signature is looking very impressive. . :applause:

Thanks Dan. Coming from you, I really appreciate it. I've come a long, long way in the last 4 years or so. Only been doing this for about 8 years total. After going to RMAF for the last 4 years, I think I'm up there with the best, and I really should give it a rest now. But I've said that before :tears:

SCAudiophile 10-10-2017 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 2fastdriving (Post 871250)
Why are you not recommending the one you have (Esoteric Mexcel)? I'll stick with the WW for a while before doing anything. Somehow I need to pump the brakes, man.

Good luck with that 🤣,...I have been trying for years. The one I have (2 actually) is a great 50ohm cable but impossible to now find authentic ones it seems. I did a lot of testing of new Shunyata digital cables...they are in a word, amazing and at least equal to the best I have every owned and much better to my ears. In the case of the 2 SIGMA AES 110ohm cables I added a short while ago, they trounce the best I ever owned and any I have ever heard!

It also looks as though you are going to clock via 75ohm circuit path; I would never recommend a 50ohm cable in place of a 75 or vie versa given serious testing I was a part of earlier this year that debunked the myth that they are interchangeable.

chessman 10-10-2017 06:20 PM

Marc, I have one on order as well, so I fully understand your excitement! :banana:

vintage_tube 10-10-2017 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 2fastdriving (Post 871250)
Why are you not recommending the one you have (Esoteric Mexcel)? Somehow I need to pump the brakes, man.

You find one - let me know.

Brakes my a--. and you have drum ones to boot -- they fade.:lmao:

Best Sir,

Bob

2fastdriving 10-10-2017 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by vintage_tube (Post 871306)
You find one - let me know.

Brakes my a--. and you have drum ones to boot -- they fade.:lmao:

Best Sir,

Bob

They show up on the website, can Ivan not get them like anything else?

http://www.esoteric.jp/products/esot...ry/indexe.html

vintage_tube 10-10-2017 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 2fastdriving (Post 871310)
They show up on the website, can Ivan not get them like anything else?

http://www.esoteric.jp/products/esot...ry/indexe.html

Sorry -- my bad -- the elusive Esoteric/MEXCEL 8N-A2000's 50 ohm BNC are what I was speaking of.

Best Sir,

Bob

Masterlu 10-10-2017 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by vintage_tube (Post 871314)
Sorry -- my bad -- the elusive Esoteric/MEXCEL 8N-A2000's 50 ohm BNC are what I was speaking of.

Best Sir,

Bob

Correct, these are no longer being made. :sigh:

audioguy3107 10-10-2017 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 2fastdriving (Post 871256)
Thanks Dan. Coming from you, I really appreciate it. I've come a long, long way in the last 4 years or so. Only been doing this for about 8 years total. After going to RMAF for the last 4 years, I think I'm up there with the best, and I really should give it a rest now. But I've said that before :tears:

Marc - you're really not gonna be a baller until you pull the trigger on the Stromtank. :D

SL1800 10-10-2017 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by audioguy3107 (Post 871318)
Marc - you're really not gonna be a baller until you pull the trigger on the Stromtank. :D



Buck you’re killing me!! [emoji23]

SL1800 10-10-2017 07:11 PM

Congrats Marc!! Wish I could come hear your system.

2fastdriving 10-10-2017 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by audioguy3107 (Post 871318)
Marc - you're really not gonna be a baller until you pull the trigger on the Stromtank. :D

It's on my list :roflmao:

audioguy3107 10-10-2017 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 2fastdriving (Post 871327)
It's on my list :roflmao:

:thumbsup: That's what I'm talking about!

For The Love of Music 10-10-2017 09:51 PM

Marc, it was obvious in the Esoteric room that you could not stand up when it was time to leave and one can only assume you were texting Ivan most likely that day about when you could expect your incoming clock. Enjoy!

brodricj 10-11-2017 08:04 AM

I'm contemplating getting a 1pps generator for my G02X, such as Trimble Thunderbolt. Are any G02X owners here slaving their clock to a 1pps reference?

2fastdriving 10-11-2017 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by brodricj (Post 871416)
I'm contemplating getting a 1pps generator for my G02X, such as Trimble Thunderbolt. Are any G02X owners here slaving their clock to a 1pps reference?

Huh? What is the advantage here? I'm confused...

Still-One 10-11-2017 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by audioguy3107 (Post 871318)
Marc - you're really not gonna be a baller until you pull the trigger on the Stromtank. :D

I saw both of the newer units at the Paragon event two weeks ago. Wolfgang was their demoing the units. The one is the updated unit from what I saw two years ago at RMAF and the second was the newer smaller unit.

brodricj 10-11-2017 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 2fastdriving (Post 871480)
Huh? What is the advantage here? I'm confused...

G02X has an external clock input, I'm curious if anybody here is using it.

docmd2010 10-18-2017 02:44 PM

Marc, Did you get your new clock yet?

2fastdriving 10-18-2017 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by docmd2010 (Post 873094)
Marc, Did you get your new clock yet?

Today! Can't wait.

docmd2010 10-18-2017 02:54 PM

awesome! Bet you are stoked! I'm hoping to get a clock in the coming months as well.

2fastdriving 10-18-2017 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by docmd2010 (Post 873099)
awesome! Bet you are stoked! I'm hoping to get a clock in the coming months as well.

I'll definitely give you my opinion. I know that you are building a super duper new system, are you thinking of sticking with esoteric for the digital front end?

docmd2010 10-18-2017 03:35 PM

Marc

Yes sir. I love esoteric, it's by and away the best digital front end I have ever heard. Such a beautiful sound, with fantastic clarity and articulation.

Today, I ordered the Aurender W20, so I can run dual aes/ebu from my D02x; next up will be a clock and a P02-X.

vintage_tube 10-18-2017 03:39 PM

Curious of you Esoteric clock owners if you use the 10MHz fixed output(s) or the configurable variables, specifically 22.5792 MHz or 24.576 MHz?

Best Sirs,

Bob

2fastdriving 10-18-2017 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by vintage_tube (Post 873107)
Curious of you Esoteric clock owners if you use the 10MHz fixed output(s) or the configurable variables, specifically 22.5792 MHz or 24.576 MHz?

Best Sirs,

Bob

Consensus seems to be the 10mhz output. I'll play around with it though.

crwilli 10-18-2017 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintage_tube (Post 873107)
Curious of you Esoteric clock owners if you use the 10MHz fixed output(s) or the configurable variables, specifically 22.5792 MHz or 24.576 MHz?



Best Sirs,



Bob



I have been using 22.5792 MHz for CD/SACD listening and 10 MHz for the USB output. I may go back to 10 MHz for both as it a little bit of a pain to switch back and forth.

vintage_tube 10-18-2017 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 2fastdriving (Post 873109)
Consensus seems to be the 10mhz output. I'll play around with it though.

Ok - new thread I'm sure to come. I've read otherwise; but, again with this hobby could be system contingent too, I imagine.

Best Sir,

Bob

SCAudiophile 10-18-2017 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 2fastdriving (Post 873109)
Consensus seems to be the 10mhz output. I'll play around with it though.

+1 on 10 mHz

2fastdriving 10-18-2017 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SCAudiophile (Post 873114)
+1 on 10 mHz

Specifically, seems like the order is:

Good : 44.1khz tap with 75 ohm bnc
Better : 10mhz tap with 75 ohm bnc
Best: 10mhz tap with 50 ohm bnc

From my extensive reading, and discussion with Mark (scaudiophile), that seems like the order of preference.

Of course, it is probably very system dependent, and I will experiment. I don't have any 50 ohm cable (yet)...


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