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TommyC 05-31-2014 02:57 PM

iSilverback coming home
 
I purchased a pair of Silverback and sent it in for the "i" or "mk2" upgrade + Silvertoe footers. I also got the dealer to replace all the midrange drivers and woofers. So, they're essentially new. :thumbsup:

They should arrive in 1-2 weeks. :banana:

Looking for all the tips on placement.

Masterlu 05-31-2014 05:56 PM

Tommy... Cool, don't forget pics. Oh a Big Congrad's too!

Truemaineiac 05-31-2014 06:18 PM

You will love them. What will you be using to drive them?

Jerome W 05-31-2014 06:20 PM

Congrats Tommy !

I guess you'll love them fully ! John surely knows how to make superb music. As you know they may have been my speakers too...

kev313 05-31-2014 06:26 PM

Congrats. I've wanted to hear the Silverbacks for some time. I had the Super 8 and Nines and enjoyed them quite a bit.

TommyC 05-31-2014 08:20 PM

Thanks gents! Will post some pics ASAP.

I will drive them with CC80. Talked to Jonathan and Matt about other lower power Shindo mono-block. They all think the CC80 and CCQ are the best amps for the Silverback.

dirtbag 05-31-2014 08:38 PM

You must be excited, having to wait is the hardest part. Tommy, it's interesting how your system has changed in the last few years.

Logey 05-31-2014 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TommyC (Post 611355)
Thanks gents! Will post some pics ASAP. I will drive them with CC80. Talked to Jonathan and Matt about other lower power Shindo mono-block. They all think the CC80 and CCQ are the best amps for the Silverback.

Hmm, Jonathan and Don (my dealer) suggested the Lafon GM70's for my Silverbacks

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TommyC 05-31-2014 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Logey (Post 611365)
Hmm, Jonathan and Don (my dealer) suggested the Lafon GM70's for my Silverbacks

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Interesting. I asked Matt about the D'Yquem (18W into 8ohm). He said my CC80 is the better fit. The Lafon is only (10W into 8ohm). :scratch2:

TommyC 05-31-2014 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtbag (Post 611360)
You must be excited, having to wait is the hardest part. Tommy, it's interesting how your system has changed in the last few years.

Dale, I know :thumbsup: My next upgrade would be the preamp.

NOLG4EVR 06-01-2014 12:59 AM

Tommy, congrats on the SB purchase. I'm sure you will love them. Looking forward to hearing your comparison to your previous speakers with your Shindo gear.

I think you might just be in for a huge treat! Enjoy.
!

vinod_david 06-01-2014 02:01 AM

Congratulations on ◄ i

DeFgibbon 06-02-2014 11:48 AM

Thanks TommyC
 
Hi TommyC,

All the Shindo amps you've mentioned will drive the Silverbacks beautifully. Both the CC80 and the GM70 are among my favorites on the speakers, your amps will be an excellent match.

Also keep in mind that, other than the cabinets, your Silverbacks are brand new and will require full burn-in before they sound "right". At least 500-700 hours of normal playing.

Happy listening--cheers!

dirtbag 06-02-2014 09:34 PM

Just a bit surprised to see JD posting. That's a good thing.

TommyC 06-03-2014 12:00 AM

Thanks John, I need to break out my receiver during the break in period to save some tube life.

Honestly, I don't know what to expect in terms of sound quality. My Guarneri Memento is sounding quite good with the Shindo system.

Tristan 06-03-2014 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TommyC (Post 611194)
I purchased a pair of Silverback and sent it in for the "i" or "mk2" upgrade + Silvertoe footers. I also got the dealer to replace all the midrange drivers and woofers. So, they're essentially new. :thumbsup: They should arrive in 1-2 weeks. :banana: Looking for all the tips on placement.

Hi Tommy,

Looking forward to hearing how your silverbacks will sound. Wanted to send mine for the upgrades but house renovation took precedent. Using a masseto/Montrachet combo for my silverbacks and considering a used pair of lafon gm70. So any opinions would be valued . Like you I also recently added duo mr t for my system.

Old Grey 06-03-2014 08:59 AM

It's been a while since I've heard them, but the GM70's are simply awesome on the Silverbacks. Very powerful, natural, and clean sounding amps -I found them to be a bit less "romantic" than the F2A amps. You really feel the musicians present. Very immediate. Absolutely stunning to listen to.

I've never heard them, but I am a bit surprised Matt didn't think the D'yquem's would be a good fit. The Silverback/Shindo combos often defy spec sheets (as evidenced by the Cortese/Silverback combo others on AA that either heard or own). I think you just need to try them out (along with your own music) to see what works best for you.

DeFgibbon 06-03-2014 12:07 PM

I'm not a big forum guy
 
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Originally Posted by dirtbag (Post 612114)
Just a bit surprised to see JD posting. That's a good thing.

But I'll check in and try to answer questions. If I disappear completely it'll either be because I've been edited again or banned.

TommyC, as for burn-in, of course you don't want to eat-up tubes for nothing. Maybe use the receiver for the first few days to a week, then go ahead and get the real system set up. They will continue to get better and better for several more weeks, but there's no reason not to enjoy the process. Happy listening!

DeFgibbon 06-03-2014 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TommyC (Post 611194)

Looking for all the tips on placement.

If you didn't get the Silverback manual with the speakers let me know and I can send you a PDF.

TommyC 06-03-2014 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Grey (Post 612209)
It's been a while since I've heard them, but the GM70's are simply awesome on the Silverbacks. Very powerful, natural, and clean sounding amps -I found them to be a bit less "romantic" than the F2A amps. You really feel the musicians present. Very immediate. Absolutely stunning to listen to.

I've never heard them, but I am a bit surprised Matt didn't think the D'yquem's would be a good fit. The Silverback/Shindo combos often defy spec sheets (as evidenced by the Cortese/Silverback combo others on AA that either heard or own). I think you just need to try them out (along with your own music) to see what works best for you.

Sounds good. I was actually interested in a used pair of Sinhonia F2a. Matt didn't think it was a good idea. I'll ask him again about the D'Yquem or the GM70 later.

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Originally Posted by DeFgibbon (Post 612236)
But I'll check in and try to answer questions. If I disappear completely it'll either be because I've been edited again or banned.

TommyC, as for burn-in, of course you don't want to eat-up tubes for nothing. Maybe use the receiver for the first few days to a week, then go ahead and get the real system set up. They will continue to get better and better for several more weeks, but there's no reason not to enjoy the process. Happy listening!

I plan to do this. The speakers already have ~50 hours before shipping out to me. So I figure I'll run it in for a week or so before enjoying it on my Shindo setup.

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Originally Posted by DeFgibbon (Post 612240)
If you didn't get the Silverback manual with the speakers let me know and I can send you a PDF.

If you don't mind John, could you send me the pdf via email? I would love to study the manual first.

Old Grey 06-03-2014 09:58 PM

Sorry, did I understand your post correctly that Matt didn't think the Sinhonia's would be a good choice either?

TommyC 06-03-2014 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Grey (Post 612394)
Sorry, did I understand your post correctly that Matt didn't think the Sinhonia's would be a good choice either?

That's correct. Both Matt and Jonathan said the same thing. The Sinhonia was designed for 16ohm speakers.

Old Grey 06-04-2014 09:57 AM

That's probably the case, but I don't care if they were designed for a mission to mars, they're a magical combo! I take no credit for the pairing -it's been well documented by many others and enjoyed by quite a few.

Certainly, based on specs, the CCQ's and the CC80s look like the best choices. But like I said before, the Silverbacks defy specs. They can sip power and really sing, or gulp it and really roar -which makes them ideal to pair with many different amps, depending on your preferences. Since it looks like you already pulled the trigger on the CC80s -enjoy the heck out of them. Certainly, the S'Backs will put that extra power to good use.

If your ears wonder and you start looking for alternatives, then make sure your list includes the GM70's, Cortese, or a used pair of Sinhonias (if you can find a pair, I certainly don't intend on getting rid of mine anytime soon!!!).

TommyC 06-04-2014 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Grey (Post 612513)
That's probably the case, but I don't care if they were designed for a mission to mars, they're a magical combo! I take no credit for the pairing -it's been well documented by many others and enjoyed by quite a few.

Certainly, based on specs, the CCQ's and the CC80s look like the best choices. But like I said before, the Silverbacks defy specs. They can sip power and really sing, or gulp it and really roar -which makes them ideal to pair with many different amps, depending on your preferences. Since it looks like you already pulled the trigger on the CC80s -enjoy the heck out of them. Certainly, the S'Backs will put that extra power to good use.

If your ears wonder and you start looking for alternatives, then make sure your list includes the GM70's, Cortese, or a used pair of Sinhonias (if you can find a pair, I certainly don't intend on getting rid of mine anytime soon!!!).

I have yet to obtain full potential from my CC80. I need to upgrade my preamp first. But, I am drooling at the thought of Sinhonia. The F2a tubes are much more exotic than the KT88 tubes.

Anyway, the speakers are shipping tomorrow :banana:

Old Grey 06-05-2014 09:35 AM

Sweet!!!! I'm anxious to hear what you think of them. What speakers do you currently own?

Yep, pre-amp would be a great choice. Take your time though and enjoy every step of the way. If you go too fast up the latter, you won't appreciate each step as much (and won't be able to provide as much valuable advice on AA!).

DeFgibbon 06-05-2014 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Grey (Post 612795)
Take your time though and enjoy every step of the way. If you go too fast up the ladder, you won't appreciate each step as much.

Now THAT is great advice for all of us!

TommyC 06-05-2014 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Grey (Post 612795)
Sweet!!!! I'm anxious to hear what you think of them. What speakers do you currently own?

Yep, pre-amp would be a great choice. Take your time though and enjoy every step of the way. If you go too fast up the latter, you won't appreciate each step as much (and won't be able to provide as much valuable advice on AA!).

Will receive them next wednesday. I won't be able to unpack them for a while though. Don't have any help.

I currently own the Guarneri Memento. They are great speakers. But I feel I'm not getting the best out of them with the Shindo. The speakers feel strained at times, even at medium volume. Just doesn't sound effortless.

I'm really looking forward to the Silverback. I don't know what to expect. But from everything I've read, it can't sound half bad.

dirtbag 06-06-2014 12:33 AM

Tommy! I'd be more than happy to come help you get them set up. I live 15 mins away and I'm
Very helpful when it comes up tackling a project like unpacking and setting up something heavy and expensive. Let me know when you would like to do it.

DeFgibbon 06-06-2014 08:59 AM

I hope it doesn't sound half bad!
 
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Originally Posted by TommyC (Post 612992)
from everything I've read, it can't sound half bad.

( :^)

Old Grey 06-06-2014 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dirtbag (Post 613047)
Tommy! I'd be more than happy to come help you get them set up. I live 15 mins away and I'm
Very helpful when it comes up tackling a project like unpacking and setting up something heavy and expensive. Let me know when you would like to do it.

Hmmm....would I trust a guy named "dirtbag" to come over and help me set up my new speakers....

We'll be watching your signature line, Dale, if those Super 8's become Silverbacks anytime soon we'll know exactly what happened!!!

TommyC 06-06-2014 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Grey (Post 613114)
Hmmm....would I trust a guy named "dirtbag" to come over and help me set up my new speakers....

We'll be watching your signature line, Dale, if those Super 8's become Silverbacks anytime soon we'll know exactly what happened!!!

If you don't see me post here, please report to the police :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtbag (Post 613047)
Tommy! I'd be more than happy to come help you get them set up. I live 15 mins away and I'm
Very helpful when it comes up tackling a project like unpacking and setting up something heavy and expensive. Let me know when you would like to do it.

Dale, I'll let you know. Thanks a bunch :thumbsup:

Pronan 06-07-2014 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TommyC (Post 611355)
Thanks gents! Will post some pics ASAP.

I will drive them with CC80. Talked to Jonathan and Matt about other lower power Shindo mono-block. They all think the CC80 and CCQ are the best amps for the Silverback.

Congrats Tommy!


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