Show us your Shindo

[PHC1]

I thought it would be cool to have a thread with all the Shindo system pics/videos. Please share some pics of your Shindo! :thumbsup:

I guess I'll go first. I was playing around with my Canon camera and captured this short video clip. My system is still work in progress but I am loving the direction it is heading. :music:

https://youtu.be/z_BCu2ZmmUY

[TommyC]

Great clip Serge!
Could you tell us which album is the song from?

[PHC1]

Sorry about that jerky video. Here is another attempt with a different lens that has image stabilization. :D

https://youtu.be/ODEFiHhzgFM

[PHC1]

Great clip Serge!
Could you tell us which album is the song from?

Tommy, it's Jheena Lodwick XRCD.

http://www.elusivedisc.com/images/jvcsxr1019.jpg

[TommyC]

Tommy, it's Jheena Lodwick XRCD.

http://www.elusivedisc.com/images/jvcsxr1019.jpg

Thanks, no wonder it sounds familiar. I have that XRCD too!

[PHC1]

Nice Shindo system. :thumbsup: Giscours, Cortese, Latour field coils.


http://www.stereophile.com/images/imagecache/960-wide/photopost/data/502/1718Basement_095.jpg

[turntable]

Nice Serge

But please ditch the CD player and put the phono stage on the shelf :D

[Masterlu]

Nice Serge

But please ditch the CD player and put the phono stage on the shelf :D

http://operatorchan.org/t/arch/src/t228040_t211335_George-Takei-oh-my.jpg

[Mikeyc]

[QUOTE=PHC1;202690]Nice Shindo system. :thumbsup: Giscours, Cortese, Latour field coils.


Beautiful system and room. Who does it belong to? Is that a Verdier Platine turntable I see?

[f1 fan]

Nice Shindo system. :thumbsup: Giscours, Cortese, Latour field coils.


http://www.stereophile.com/images/imagecache/960-wide/photopost/data/502/1718Basement_095.jpg

Serge...WOW! Thanks for the pic, what a beautiful room filled with Shindo and vinyl:thumbsup::music:

Dave

[MisterBritt]

Alls I can say is:

http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww22/misterbritt/damn.jpg

[Alberto]

Nice Shindo system. :thumbsup: Giscours, Cortese, Latour field coils.


http://www.stereophile.com/images/imagecache/960-wide/photopost/data/502/1718Basement_095.jpg

It's great to see someone with the obvious financial means and a dedicated room for such a system use the "humble" (comparatively speaking) little 10+10W Cortese.

It has been months since I got my Cortese and it continues to enchant and captivate me day-in and day-out. I can only imagine how great it would sound in a larger room and with those speakers ... wait, I don't have to imagine it -- I heard that combination at Pitch Perfect in a room that was even larger and taller. It sounded F A N T A S T I C.

Alberto

[omodo]

I've read about this room before on the Klipsch forums..

Some info on the room/dealer

Dealer Profile - Ultimate Audio Video | Stereophile.com (http://www.stereophile.com/news/111306ultimate/)

[Mikeyc]

Sweet, I thought it was a Rives room, i recognize the round rear diffuser and ceiling treatments. I belong to the Audiophile Club of Toronto (ACT) and one of the guys in the group has a Rives room, it's pretty over the top.

[Jerome W]

It's great to see someone with the obvious financial means and a dedicated room for such a system use the "humble" (comparatively speaking) little 10+10W Cortese.

It has been months since I got my Cortese and it continues to enchant and captivate me day-in and day-out. I can only imagine how great it would sound in a larger room and with those speakers ... wait, I don't have to imagine it -- I heard that combination at Pitch Perfect in a room that was even larger and taller. It sounded F A N T A S T I C.

Alberto

Alberto,
Nice pic ! Thanks for sharing.
I just don't like this Cortese sitting on the floor but that's a dealer's room....

[Mikeyc]

Hey guys, newbie here, how do I post a pic of my system here? I tried adding a link to the pic in Picasa but it doesn't show up?

[cmalak]

Hey guys, newbie here, how do I post a pic of my system here? I tried adding a link to the pic in Picasa but it doesn't show up?

MikeyC...welcome to AA. I believe you have to become a subscriber or have a certain number of posts before being able to post pictures and access all the things the site has to offer. You can check this link out: http://www.audioaficionado.org/payments.php

[Alberto]

Hey guys, newbie here, how do I post a pic of my system here? I tried adding a link to the pic in Picasa but it doesn't show up?

Strange, I saw the link and this photo in my email alert, but not on the post. Here's what I saw.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YW0LekxV1XQ/Tm1VURVIMYI/AAAAAAAABWI/XcfNCcagTSs/s800/P1040491.JPG

It's a very nice system, I love the speakers, appreciate the sound treatment in the back ... and don't even get me started about that super-serious looking, means business, turntable plinth.

I am not sure what the post count has to be in order to post photos, but with a system like that, you should seriously consider becoming an Audio Aficionado member so you can post freely, send and receive messages, buy/sell, etc. There's no other dedicated Shindo forum on the web and it might be the best audio $ you spent ... about the price of a quality LP.

Give it some consideration. I am not a paying member on any other forum - but AA is definitely worth it because of Ivan.

Whatever you decide to do, I am thrilled to see another Shindo Aficionado in this forum. I still have my Montille and Auriges and they got a lot of playing time in the living room today :thumbsup:.

Alberto

[NeilNZ]

That looks fantastic!

[Mikeyc]

Strange, I saw the link and this photo in my email alert, but not on the post. Here's what I saw.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YW0LekxV1XQ/Tm1VURVIMYI/AAAAAAAABWI/XcfNCcagTSs/s800/P1040491.JPG

It's a very nice system, I love the speakers, appreciate the sound treatment in the back ... and don't even get me started about that super-serious looking, means business, turntable plinth.

I am not sure what the post count has to be in order to post photos, but with a system like that, you should seriously consider becoming an Audio Aficionado member so you can post freely, send and receive messages, buy/sell, etc. There's no other dedicated Shindo forum on the web and it might be the best audio $ you spent ... about the price of a quality LP.

Give it some consideration. I am not a paying member on any other forum - but AA is definitely worth it because of Ivan.

Whatever you decide to do, I am thrilled to see another Shindo Aficionado in this forum. I still have my Montille and Auriges and they got a lot of playing time in the living room today :thumbsup:.

Alberto

Hi Alberto thanks for the kind words, I'll definitely consider joining up. Just to give you some background on my system, I have a small room, so I wanted a system that could draw me in and connect me with the music. I don't need huge tower speakers powered by a mega watt SS amp so I decided to go with an old skool system that utilizes well regarded and classic NOS pieces from the 70s and 80s. I started out with an Aurieges preamp from Matt and over the years added another Shindo piece and a cable here and the sound evolved into quite a holistic Shindo sound. I don't have top of the line Shindo gear, but I think in terms of philosophy and synergies its not bad and I'm in no rush to change anything at the moment.

I'm running a Montille with Mullard EL84s and an Auriege MM. All interconnects between the pre, power amp and the Auditorium 23 SUT are Shindo and the speaker cables are A23. Speakers are Coral Beta 8s, single driver, very dynamic and efficient (over 100 dB) so I never have to have the volume dial past 10 o'clock. The table is a a poor man's Shindo/Garrard 301 - its a Lenco L75 modded by the (in)famous Jean Nantais, with a CLD plinth consisting of 11 layers of alternating birch plywood and mdf and it weighs in at over 70 lbs so excellent at isolating the cart from vibrations. Its an idler design (platter spins via a wheel under the platter) which results in very stable speed. Most notable is its sense of PRaT (pacing, rhythm, and timing). I also have an old skool Audiocraft 300 arm with an EMT JDS 5. I haven't seen too many EMT carts on this forum, but you guys should check them out if you haven't already, they're really special and match with Shindo gear very well - Matt at PP absolutely loves 'em also. As a backup arm I have a Moerch DP6 with a Dyna 20X cart, but it sees very little use as I love the sound from the EMT.

The most recent piece I got was a Mr T. I think its the cherry on top. Although I have dedicated lines and my power is pretty clean, the Mr T power conditioner adds another 10% or so to the overall sound. It makes the background a little bit blacker and, the bass more defined.

The CDP is a Cayin with tube output but it rarely ever gets turned on these days as I play about 99% vinyl. I also have a Velodyne 12" sub to augment the lower octaves and a smattering of ther amps (Bedini 100/100, Marantz 8B). but they also see very little use as I'm in love with the delicous Shindo sound - especially with older Jazz from the 50s and 60s. I wouldn't be surprised if Shindo San voices his gear with jazz because they're a match in heaven. :music:

Finally the rear wall treatments are actually quite simple, they're acoustic tiles made by Mio, very cheap at only about $40 IIRC.

[Shindoug]

These wonderful pic's got me inspired, so here's my humble system....

12089

Merrill Heirloom / MS2 turntable. Well Tempered arm. Dyvanector 20X2H cartridge. Ayon CDP1. Shindo Aurieges. Shindo Montille 6V6. Reeference 3A Studio Master. Auditorium 23 cables.
New speakers coming soon..... stay tuned.

Doug

Edit -- Hmmm, a little too humble, not sure why the picture come out so small. I'll have to figure this out in the am and try again

[Masterlu]

Poof, it's Big! ;)

Very nice Doug.

http://www.audioaficionado.org/attachments/shindo-labs/12089d1315883508-show-us-your-shindo-img_0776.jpg

[f1 fan]

These wonderful pic's got me inspired, so here's my humble system....

<img src="http://www.audioaficionado.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=12089"/>

Merrill Heirloom / MS2 turntable. Well Tempered arm. Dyvanector 20X2H cartridge. Ayon CDP1. Shindo Aurieges. Shindo Montille 6V6. Reeference 3A Studio Master. Auditorium 23 cables.
New speakers coming soon..... stay tuned.

Doug

Edit -- Hmmm, a little too humble, not sure why the picture come out so small. I'll have to figure this out in the am and try again

Doug...beautiful system, love your Merrill 'table.

Dave

Sent from my iPhone using A.Aficionado

[Alberto]

These wonderful pic's got me inspired, so here's my humble system....

12089

Merrill Heirloom / MS2 turntable. Well Tempered arm. Dyvanector 20X2H cartridge. Ayon CDP1. Shindo Aurieges. Shindo Montille 6V6. Reeference 3A Studio Master. Auditorium 23 cables.
New speakers coming soon..... stay tuned.

Doug

Edit -- Hmmm, a little too humble, not sure why the picture come out so small. I'll have to figure this out in the am and try again

Very nice Doug. I look forward to seeing what new speakers you are getting.

Alberto

[PHC1]

Awesome systems! Keep them coming guys! :thumbsup:

[adhesiv]

My Shindo Affair Thus Far.

[Mikeyc]

Poof, it's Big! ;)




Master Lu if you could package and market that..... just think of the possibilities! :D :scratch2:

[gtubes]

These wonderful pic's got me inspired, so here's my humble system....

12089

Merrill Heirloom / MS2 turntable. Well Tempered arm. Dyvanector 20X2H cartridge. Ayon CDP1. Shindo Aurieges. Shindo Montille 6V6. Reeference 3A Studio Master. Auditorium 23 cables.
New speakers coming soon..... stay tuned.

Doug

Edit -- Hmmm, a little too humble, not sure why the picture come out so small. I'll have to figure this out in the am and try again

Beautiful system :thumbsup:

[G-Man]

I love this little system! My first advice would be that if it currently invokes an emotional response within the listener, don't mess with it. However, if you need or long for a deeper connection, there are a couple of things you can do that will stick with you regardless of the other components you ultimately choose. The Mr. T, the Arome CD, and Shindo IC's all are no-brainers, IMHO. The great thing about all of them is you can continue to use them throughout your future upgrades. They 're rarely seen on the used market and are always in demand.

Just a couple of cents from a guys who was in your shoes 6 years ago. Here's a link to my current system... AudiogoN Forums: Shindo in the big room! (http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?vdone&1234119155&read&keyw&zzshindo)

Take care in between!

[Masterlu]

Master Lu if you could package and market that..... just think of the possibilities! :D :scratch2:

http://musicplayers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/logo.gif

:lmao:

[jwhite613]

G-Man, Welcome to AA!!!

:welcome2.:

[G-Man]

G-Man, Welcome to AA!!!

:welcome2.:

Thank you, Sir. Glad to be here.

[TommyC]

Thank you, Sir. Glad to be here.

Great system G-Man!

Can you tell us more about Shindo's upgraded power cords? Besides your system, I've never seen others using them.

[f1 fan]

G-Man...welcome to AA. Love your room and system...

Dave

Sent from my iPhone using A.Aficionado

[G-Man]

Great system G-Man!

Can you tell us more about Shindo's upgraded power cords? Besides your system, I've never seen others using them.

Like all Shindo products, they're special. They get you a step closer to where you want to be.

[Masterlu]

All this Green talk has me very curious; I'll be seeking them out at RMAF.

[G-Man]

Like most of you gentlemen, I started with a Shindo amp and preamp. From there, I knew I was on the right track. I then purchased Shindo ICs, cords, transformer, and power line conditioner. Then it was time for speakers. Finally a little icing on the cake - the Ligno Lab rack. I haven't changed the heart of this system in years. The only thing I occasionally alter is the digital source and the cable that connects it.

Going straight to vinyl may have been a much easier and direct of a solution in reaching many of my sonic desires; however, I longed to combine the best of the old with the best and convenience of the new. After many difficult/costly trial and error experiments, I'm where I want to be; although I'm not close minded enough to give something else a go...

Vinyl, maybe some day... After hearing my system, you, like me, may not feel the need. IMHO, it's all about what gets you to that personal emotion-invoking happy place you strive for. If Shindo helps to get you there, that's great; however if some other manufacturer does, that's cool too.

[JohnThomas]

All this Green talk has me very curious; I'll be seeking them out at RMAF.

I hear you. I've have an appointment next week at Don Better's Audio. He going to show me his Shindo equipment.

[pitch perfect]

I hear you. I've have an appointment next week at Don Better's Audio. He going to show me his Shindo equipment.

Cool, Don will make some good tunes for you. :yes:

:thumbsup:

-M

[Rafale]

These wonderful pic's got me inspired, so here's my humble system....

12089

Merrill Heirloom / MS2 turntable. Well Tempered arm. Dyvanector 20X2H cartridge. Ayon CDP1. Shindo Aurieges. Shindo Montille 6V6. Reeference 3A Studio Master. Auditorium 23 cables.
New speakers coming soon..... stay tuned.

Doug

Edit -- Hmmm, a little too humble, not sure why the picture come out so small. I'll have to figure this out in the am and try again

Doug.....congrats, beautiful set up ..... just curious .. tweeters set up outside with the Ref 3A ?

[Shindoug]

Doug.....congrats, beautiful set up ..... just curious .. tweeters set up outside with the Ref 3A ?

Unconventional, I know, but that's what Ref 3A recommend.

[Altec Green]

Hello all fellow Shindo devotee:yeeea::wave:,

I am glad to found this forum dedicated to the Shindo arts. I recently become A Shindo disciple after numerous adventure in audiophile jungles. With Shindo I finally reach home.

Thanks,
Surja Sutantio

[f1 fan]

Surja...welcome to AA and enjoy the Shindo forum.

Dave

[jwhite613]

Altec Green, Welcome to AA!!!

:welcome2.:

[chessman]

Altec Green, welcome aboard! :wave:

[Jerome W]

Welcome to the friendly forum Altec Green !

[Altec Green]

Thanks Dave, Jeff, Randy, Jérôme.

[Alberto]

Hello all fellow Shindo devotee:yeeea::wave:,

I am glad to found this forum dedicated to the Shindo arts. I recently become A Shindo disciple after numerous adventure in audiophile jungles. With Shindo I finally reach home.

Thanks,
Surja Sutantio

Welcome Altec Green, I really like your avatar - the Shindo Swan. Beautiful.

Alberto

[Altec Green]

Thanks Alberto, it is very nice to be around some of you.

[Pai Mei]

I hear you. I've have an appointment next week at Don Better's Audio. He going to show me his Shindo equipment.

Hey John - How'd the visit go?

[Old Grey]

Hi Alberto thanks for the kind words, I'll definitely consider joining up. Just to give you some background on my system, I have a small room, so I wanted a system that could draw me in and connect me with the music. I don't need huge tower speakers powered by a mega watt SS amp so I decided to go with an old skool system that utilizes well regarded and classic NOS pieces from the 70s and 80s. I started out with an Aurieges preamp from Matt and over the years added another Shindo piece and a cable here and the sound evolved into quite a holistic Shindo sound. I don't have top of the line Shindo gear, but I think in terms of philosophy and synergies its not bad and I'm in no rush to change anything at the moment.

I'm running a Montille with Mullard EL84s and an Auriege MM. All interconnects between the pre, power amp and the Auditorium 23 SUT are Shindo and the speaker cables are A23. Speakers are Coral Beta 8s, single driver, very dynamic and efficient (over 100 dB) so I never have to have the volume dial past 10 o'clock. The table is a a poor man's Shindo/Garrard 301 - its a Lenco L75 modded by the (in)famous Jean Nantais, with a CLD plinth consisting of 11 layers of alternating birch plywood and mdf and it weighs in at over 70 lbs so excellent at isolating the cart from vibrations. Its an idler design (platter spins via a wheel under the platter) which results in very stable speed. Most notable is its sense of PRaT (pacing, rhythm, and timing). I also have an old skool Audiocraft 300 arm with an EMT JDS 5. I haven't seen too many EMT carts on this forum, but you guys should check them out if you haven't already, they're really special and match with Shindo gear very well - Matt at PP absolutely loves 'em also. As a backup arm I have a Moerch DP6 with a Dyna 20X cart, but it sees very little use as I love the sound from the EMT.

The most recent piece I got was a Mr T. I think its the cherry on top. Although I have dedicated lines and my power is pretty clean, the Mr T power conditioner adds another 10% or so to the overall sound. It makes the background a little bit blacker and, the bass more defined.

The CDP is a Cayin with tube output but it rarely ever gets turned on these days as I play about 99% vinyl. I also have a Velodyne 12" sub to augment the lower octaves and a smattering of ther amps (Bedini 100/100, Marantz 8B). but they also see very little use as I'm in love with the delicous Shindo sound - especially with older Jazz from the 50s and 60s. I wouldn't be surprised if Shindo San voices his gear with jazz because they're a match in heaven. :music:

Finally the rear wall treatments are actually quite simple, they're acoustic tiles made by Mio, very cheap at only about $40 IIRC.

I second the comment on the 50s/60s jazz. The 45 RPM reissues are fantastic. I'd highly recommend Kenny Burrell's Midnight Blue or Trane's Blue Train if you haven't heard. Even the BlueNote 33's (original or reissues) are quite good to. Love those Miles Davis Prestige years too. Most anything RVG did sounds awesome on vinyl with Shindo gear.

[G-Man]

The Mr. T gives you more Shindo synergy. That's probably why you like it so much. IMHO, all you need is more of the same...

[JohnThomas]

Hey John - How'd the visit go?

Well, with all the wonderful things being said about Shindo equipment I made an appointment to here the Shindo equipment at Don Better's Audio in Shaker Heights ,OH .

We started off with the Cortese, Vosne-Romanee, Acoustic Plan cd/dac with external power supply and Shindo 604 speakers. (90% of the listening was done with 604's and 10% with the Devore 0/96). I don't remember a lot of the music but it was a good mixture of Jazz, rock and classical. First impression was wow the 604 really throws a huge sound stage, vocals were crystal clear but the Cortese sounded a little brighter to my ears. After 30 mins of listening Don switched the Cortese out for the Haut Brion amp. This amp was wonderful, warm and romantic like a glass of cabernet. After a few songs using the Acoustic Plan we switch over to the Shindo turntable using the Haut Brion and Vosne-Romanee. This was a huge jump in refinement. Right then I understood the Shindo synergy of keeping everything the same if you want the full Shindo effect. Not to say that listening with the Acoustic Plan was bad. It's that the turntable was the icing on the cake. Then we switch amps again this time to the GM-70. This one has a bold sound after listening to the other two amps (deep base and a lot of reserve power).

After I zoned in on the amp I liked we tried the Masseto with the Haut Brion. That sounded good also but not as refined as with the Vosne- Romanee.

Then we switch out the 604 with the Devore 0/96 speakers, Haut Brion and Vosne-Romanee. I listen to three different songs with the 0/96. The sound stage drop pretty significantly to my ears. I think listening to the 604 for 3 1/2 hours and then the 0/96 for last 30 minutes was the reason for the big let down (besides it's almost 3 times less in price then the 604).

Ok first my take on the look and finish of the 604. For 32K it's way over priced, it looks very boxy and the finish is just ok but for 2K more you can put the 604 driver in the Latour box which looks and feels way better and was told would give you more bass. If i was buying a 604 I would pay the extra 2K.

The look and finish of all the amps, preamps and turntable are gorgeous and are worth the price of admission. Is it the holy grail I don't know but it's very good stuff.

[dpod4]

Well, with all the wonderful things being said about Shindo equipment I made an appointment to here the Shindo equipment at Don Better's Audio in Shaker Heights ,OH .

We started off with the Cortese, Vosne-Romanee, Acoustic Plan cd/dac with external power supply and Shindo 604 speakers. (90% of the listening was done with 604's and 10% with the Devore 0/96). I don't remember a lot of the music but it was a good mixture of Jazz, rock and classical. First impression was wow the 604 really throws a huge sound stage, vocals were crystal clear but the Cortese sounded a little bright to my ears. After 30 mins of listening Don switched the Cortese out for the Haut Brion amp. This amp was wonderful, warm and fuzzy like a glass of cabernet. After a few songs using the Acoustic Plan we switch over to the Shindo turntable using the Haut Brion and Vosne-Romanee. This was a huge jump in refinement. Right then I understood the Shindo synergy of keeping everything the same if you want the full Shindo effect. Not to say that listening with the Acoustic Plan was bad. It's that the turntable was the icing on the cake. Then we switch amps again this time to the GM-70. This one has a bold sound after listening to the other two amps (deep base and a lot of reserve power).

After I zoned in on the amp I liked we tried the Masseto with the Haut Brion. That sounded good also but not as refined as with the Vosne- Romanee.

Then we switch out the 604 with the Devore 0/96 speakers, Haut Brion and Vosne-Romanee. I listen to three different songs with the 0/96. The sound stage drop pretty significantly to my ears. I think listening to the 604 for 3 1/2 hours and then the 0/96 for last 30 minutes was the reason for the big let down (besides it's almost 3 times less in price then the 604).

Ok first my take on the look and finish of the 604. For 32K it's way over priced, it looks very boxy and the finish is just ok but for 2K more you can put the 604 driver in the Latour box which looks and feels way better and was told would give you more bass. If i was buying a 604 I would pay the extra 2K.

The look and finish of all the amps, preamps and turntable are gorgeous and are worth the price of admission. Is it the holy grail I don't know but it's very good stuff.

Great review, thanks for sharing.

[Stercom]

After all these years I finally found a place to talk Shindo! Reading Art Dudley's, Jules Coleman's and Jeff Day's experiences got me into Shindo. Matt Rotunda's advice and help have helped immensely. Looking forward to being part of this community! Here are a few pics.


http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/s/f/1304715359.jpghttp://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/s/f/1304716265.jpg

[Masterlu]

After all these years I finally found a place to talk Shindo! Reading Art Dudley's, Jules Coleman's and Jeff Day's experiences got me into Shindo. Matt Rotunda's advice and help have helped immensely. Looking forward to being part of this community! Here are a few pics.


http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/s/f/1304715359.jpghttp://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/s/f/1304716265.jpg

Stercom... Welcome! :wave:

Very Nice Rig! :thumbsup:

[jwhite613]

Pai Mei, Welcome to AA!!!

:welcome2.:

[maxsmart]

Stercom... Welcome! :wave:

Very Nice Rig! :thumbsup:

+1 :music:

[jwhite613]

Stercom, Welcome to AA!!! Beautiful System. :thumbsup:

:welcome2.:

[Masterlu]

Pai Mei... Welcome! :wave:

[Mikeyc]

I second the comment on the 50s/60s jazz. The 45 RPM reissues are fantastic. I'd highly recommend Kenny Burrell's Midnight Blue or Trane's Blue Train if you haven't heard. Even the BlueNote 33's (original or reissues) are quite good to. Love those Miles Davis Prestige years too. Most anything RVG did sounds awesome on vinyl with Shindo gear.

Old grey I agree 100%! Ever since I went the Shindo route jazz has become simply intoxicating, I can't get enough of old Bluenote, Prestige and Impulse recordings, the sound so beautiful with the green gear.

[Mikeyc]

After all these years I finally found a place to talk Shindo! Reading Art Dudley's, Jules Coleman's and Jeff Day's experiences got me into Shindo. Matt Rotunda's advice and help have helped immensely. Looking forward to being part of this community! Here are a few pics.


http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/s/f/1304715359.jpghttp://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/s/f/1304716265.jpg

Stercom welcome and beautiful system! Can you describe it for us please?

[Old Grey]

Well, with all the wonderful things being said about Shindo equipment I made an appointment to here the Shindo equipment at Don Better's Audio in Shaker Heights ,OH .

We started off with the Cortese, Vosne-Romanee, Acoustic Plan cd/dac with external power supply and Shindo 604 speakers. (90% of the listening was done with 604's and 10% with the Devore 0/96). I don't remember a lot of the music but it was a good mixture of Jazz, rock and classical. First impression was wow the 604 really throws a huge sound stage, vocals were crystal clear but the Cortese sounded a little bright to my ears. After 30 mins of listening Don switched the Cortese out for the Haut Brion amp. This amp was wonderful, warm and fuzzy like a glass of cabernet. After a few songs using the Acoustic Plan we switch over to the Shindo turntable using the Haut Brion and Vosne-Romanee. This was a huge jump in refinement. Right then I understood the Shindo synergy of keeping everything the same if you want the full Shindo effect. Not to say that listening with the Acoustic Plan was bad. It's that the turntable was the icing on the cake. Then we switch amps again this time to the GM-70. This one has a bold sound after listening to the other two amps (deep base and a lot of reserve power).

After I zoned in on the amp I liked we tried the Masseto with the Haut Brion. That sounded good also but not as refined as with the Vosne- Romanee.

Then we switch out the 604 with the Devore 0/96 speakers, Haut Brion and Vosne-Romanee. I listen to three different songs with the 0/96. The sound stage drop pretty significantly to my ears. I think listening to the 604 for 3 1/2 hours and then the 0/96 for last 30 minutes was the reason for the big let down (besides it's almost 3 times less in price then the 604).

Ok first my take on the look and finish of the 604. For 32K it's way over priced, it looks very boxy and the finish is just ok but for 2K more you can put the 604 driver in the Latour box which looks and feels way better and was told would give you more bass. If i was buying a 604 I would pay the extra 2K.

The look and finish of all the amps, preamps and turntable are gorgeous and are worth the price of admission. Is it the holy grail I don't know but it's very good stuff.

Sounds like you had a great visit. The 604's are wonderful, wonderful speakers. I can't comment on "over priced", I just know they're some of the best I've heard -but I haven't heard many at that price.

I like the Orangutans too, but as you say, it's hard to make a comparison to speakers 3x the cost. They're also very different speakers than what I'm used to. They do some things extremely well (rock, big music, etc) but I prefer John's other offerings for jazz. They're a terrific addition to his line up and I think a lot depends on your musical preferences which direction you'd go.

I'm always fascinated by the Haut Brion vs. Cortese comparison. To my ear, that F2a tube is the bomb. Others hear the world quite differently. I guess that's what makes this hobby (and world for that matter) so interesting.

[Old Grey]

The Mr. T gives you more Shindo synergy. That's probably why you like it so much. IMHO, all you need is more of the same...

At the risk of being the forum jerk, this is another one of those widely considered "no-brainer" upgrades that didn't quite do it for me. I haven't found anything better than plugging those thin little gray cords right into the wall (I do have dedicated outlets). Not to say Mr. T doesn't work wonders for some, it's just one I think YMMV.

[Old Grey]

Stercom welcome and beautiful system! Can you describe it for us please?

That is a beautiful system. How long have you had the Sinhonia's? What other Shindo amps have you tried?

[Old Grey]

Sorry for all the posts fellas...this 10 post rule is a killer. Had I thought about it, I would've just paid the $25 and been done with it.

[Masterlu]

Sorry for all the posts fellas...this 10 post rule is a killer. Had I thought about it, I would've just paid the $25 and been done with it.

You still should... :naughty:

[Cucumber_Jones]

Sorry for all the posts fellas...this 10 post rule is a killer. Had I thought about it, I would've just paid the $25 and been done with it.

Yup get to it. Well worth it...

[Mikeyc]

At the risk of being the forum jerk, this is another one of those widely considered "no-brainer" upgrades that didn't quite do it for me. I haven't found anything better than plugging those thin little gray cords right into the wall (I do have dedicated outlets). Not to say Mr. T doesn't work wonders for some, it's just one I think YMMV.

No, not a jerk, just calling it as you see it which I appreciate. I took my Mr T to a friend's place, he has a Monbrison, Haut Brion, Super 8s And nice DPS, Lyra, Schroeder front end. He's using a Running Springs Haley power conditioner which I believe is in the same price range as the Mr T. Anyways after we did a comparison of the two conditioners it was clear to both of us that the Mr T was better, more solid bass, more transparent highs and nicer texture and tonality. He doesn't have dedicated lines.

When I took it home and tried it in my system, (Aurieges, Montille) which has dedicated lines the differences were still there but not as obvious as at my friend's place. Whether it's because his system is more resolving or my power cleaner, I don't know. But there it is, YMMV.

[Alberto]

...
First impression was wow the 604 really throws a huge sound stage, vocals were crystal clear but the Cortese sounded a little bright to my ears. ...


John,

Thanks for the summary. I am a bit puzzled by the "Cortese sounded a little bright to my ears." Granted we all hear differently and I haven't heard it with the speakers in question, but I am super-sensitive to brightness and I've found the Cortese to be one of the smoothest amps I've ever heard in the top octaves. I've actually removed some high-frequency sound treatments in my room because I no longer felt the need for it; I have also adjusted the treble on my Tannoys from -1.5db to flat because of it.

I am not challenging what you've heard, just adding my experience. Perhaps Serge (PHC1) can chime in as well with his.

Alberto

[pitch perfect]

John,

Thanks for the summary. I am a bit puzzled by the "Cortese sounded a little bright to my ears." Granted we all hear differently and I haven't heard it with the speakers in question, but I am super-sensitive to brightness and I've found the Cortese to be one of the smoothest amps I've ever heard in the top octaves. I've actually removed some high-frequency sound treatments in my room because I no longer felt the need for it; I have also adjusted the treble on my Tannoys from -1.5db to flat because of it.

I am not challenging what you've heard, just adding my experience. Perhaps Serge (PHC1) can chime in as well with his.

Alberto

Agree. Cortese is not bright at all, and the Haut Brion is not fuzzy. Haut Brion is very extended, sparkly and transparent, with a visceral, mighty quality to the sound. Just goes to show how room interactions and source components/music selection affect the system. :yes:

-M

[Old Grey]

You still should... :naughty:

Sorry in advance. As you nay gather from my first 10 posts -I'm a cheap, cynical, analytical, & critical SOB. I guess I shop my forum sites like I shop my audio gear!

You do seem like a good bunch of guys -I'm sure I'll contribute soon. Well worth the price of admission.

[JohnThomas]

John,

Thanks for the summary. I am a bit puzzled by the "Cortese sounded a little bright to my ears." Granted we all hear differently and I haven't heard it with the speakers in question, but I am super-sensitive to brightness and I've found the Cortese to be one of the smoothest amps I've ever heard in the top octaves. I've actually removed some high-frequency sound treatments in my room because I no longer felt the need for it; I have also adjusted the treble on my Tannoys from -1.5db to flat because of it.

I am not challenging what you've heard, just adding my experience. Perhaps Serge (PHC1) can chime in as well with his.

Alberto

Let me rephase that as brighter than the Haut Brion. That's the word the dealer describe to me. But when I go for a second listen I will listen to the Cortese with the Latour.

[Old Grey]

Let me rephase that as brighter than the Haut Brion. That's the word the dealer describe to me. But when I go for a second listen I will listen to the Cortese with the Latour.

I think Matt's description nailed the Haut Brion -but if anything, that "sparkly/viceral" sound made the Haut Brion always sound "brighter" to my ears than the smoother, more romantic sound of the F2a's.

[f1 fan]

After all these years I finally found a place to talk Shindo! Reading Art Dudley's, Jules Coleman's and Jeff Day's experiences got me into Shindo. Matt Rotunda's advice and help have helped immensely. Looking forward to being part of this community! Here are a few pics.



Stercom...WOW! What a beautiful system, welcome to AA and enjoy the Shindo forum. Be sure to join us over on the 'What's Spinning' forum where analog lives.

Dave

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[adhesiv]

At the risk of being the forum jerk, this is another one of those widely considered "no-brainer" upgrades that didn't quite do it for me. I haven't found anything better than plugging those thin little gray cords right into the wall (I do have dedicated outlets). Not to say Mr. T doesn't work wonders for some, it's just one I think YMMV.

I'm still on the fence with Mr. T as well but I do think I'm having some electrical nasties get into my system from time to time as I still on occasion get some strange noise through my system. The strange thing is it's very sporadic and 9 out of 10 listening sessions I have no issues. I've also noticed it's only on the right channel whatever that means (maybe tube related?) I've been on the road so much lately with the new job I haven't had time to really diagnose it too much.

Anyway I'll have to see about demoing a Mr. T sometime to see how it interacts with my setup.

[adhesiv]

Stercom welcome and beautiful system! Can you describe it for us please?

+1, interested to learn more too and see how you arrived to your particular setup.

Are those Salk speakers?

Welcome to the site! :wave:

[G-Man]

IMHO unfortunately, if you're not hearing distinct differences when using a Mr. T or other Shindo accessory, your speakers aren't providing you with the clearest window into the music possible. Nothing hides from a pair of high resolution horns. They reveal everything, good or bad.

A set of Shindo speakers will easily let you realize all the benefits of Shindo's other products. Additionally, once you get the rest of your system up to snuff, they'll provide you with a pristine window into the music. If emotion is contained in the recording, there's nothing better at affecting the same emotion within the listener.

[JayBass]

Agreed. I have a Cortese paired with a Masseto, running into a pair of Altec Valencia 846a's, and have never heard a hint of what I would describe as brightness unless it was a particularly bright recording and even then the Cortese renders it listenable.

[Old Grey]

I'm still on the fence with Mr. T as well but I do think I'm having some electrical nasties get into my system from time to time as I still on occasion get some strange noise through my system. The strange thing is it's very sporadic and 9 out of 10 listening sessions I have no issues. I've also noticed it's only on the right channel whatever that means (maybe tube related?) I've been on the road so much lately with the new job I haven't had time to really diagnose it too much.

Anyway I'll have to see about demoing a Mr. T sometime to see how it interacts with my setup.

Odd that that power issues would only impact one channel. What are you hearing?

[Stercom]

+1, interested to learn more too and see how you arrived to your particular setup.

Are those Salk speakers?

Welcome to the site! :wave:

Thanks everyone! I am so glad I found some Shindo people! My Shindo story is a little long and a little complicated.

I'll try to leave something to talk about in future posts but I owned the Monbrison before the Vosne-Romanee. Before the Sinhonias I owned the Haut Brion and the Cortese. Before the Shindo 301 I owned a Garrard 301 with 12" Ortofon arm and Ortofon SPU-A gold. Do you see a pattern here? :rolleyes:

The reason I settled on the Sinhonias is because of the additional power which allows me to use them with a wide variety of speakers. For me, Shindo amps all sound similar, its the power rating and speaker matching you must pay attention to. And the biggest challenge has definitely been finding the right speaker! I've used a lot speakers with my Shindo gear over the years: Altec Valencias (stock form and with non-Shindo field coils (long story) ), Devore Nines, Harbeth 40.1, Zu Audio Druid MkIV, Tonian Acoustics TL-D1 MkII and Totem Arros. I'm currently using a pair of Salk Archos. They are high-efficiency, very well balanced and throw a HUGE soundstage. I know the easiest solution would be to buy a pair of Shindo speakers and be done with it. I assume that is eventually what will happen but I'm enjoying the journey!:thumbsup:

[Stercom]

Stercom...WOW! What a beautiful system, welcome to AA and enjoy the Shindo forum. Be sure to join us over on the 'What's Spinning' forum where analog lives.

Dave



Thanks Dave, will do...... "Long Live Analog"

[Stercom]

Stercom welcome and beautiful system! Can you describe it for us please?

Hi - My system is based around the Vosne Romanee preamp. The rest of it is:
Shindo Sinhonia amps (no longer made, use the Siemens F2a tube)
Shindo 301 analog
Shindo interconnects and power cords
Auditorium 23 speaker cables
Auditorium 23 Homage step-up
Shindo Mr.T
Salk Archo speakers (high-efficiency, open baffle)
Logitech Touch with SimAudio 100D and Welborne linear power supply.

The Shindo and Auditorium 23 gear is staying. Everything else is "fluid":D

[Mikeyc]

Oh boy this is gonna get confusing, we have two new members, Pai Mei and Old Grey, with the latter using Pai Mei (from
Kill Bill) as his avatar. Interestingly I also use the image of Pai Mei as my avatar on other forums, but for some reason I decided to switch to Frank Zappa on a whim. Lots of Tarantino fans here methinks? :)

[Masterlu]

JayBass... Welcome! :wave:

[jwhite613]

Stercom... Welcome to AA!!

:welcome2.:

[f1 fan]

Agreed. I have a Cortese paired with a Masseto, running into a pair of Altec Valencia 846a's, and have never heard a hint of what I would describe as brightness unless it was a particularly bright recording and even then the Cortese renders it listenable.

JayBass...welcome to AA. Enjoy the Shindo forum.

Dave

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[jwhite613]

JayBass... Welcome to AA!!!

:welcome2.:

[JayBass]

Thanks for the welcome. It is nice to see a dedicated Shindo forum.

[Altec Green]

Stercom welcome and beautiful system! Can you describe it for us please?

very nice system Stercom

[Old Grey]

Oh boy this is gonna get confusing, we have two new members, Pai Mei and Old Grey, with the latter using Pai Mei (from
Kill Bill) as his avatar. Interestingly I also use the image of Pai Mei as my avatar on other forums, but for some reason I decided to switch to Frank Zappa on a whim. Lots of Tarantino fans here methinks? :)

I'm an even bigger fan of jwhite613's avatar, but I've been using "Old Grey" for years now and thought a picture of Pai Mai would be more appropriate. As for the other Pai Mai, perhaps we can convince him to use Frank Zappa (just kidding)

[Old Grey]

For me, Shindo amps all sound similar

Say it ain't so, Stercom...you ripped all through all those great amps and found them similar? I'll give you the Cortese and Sinhonia's, but the Haut Brion? Very different to my ear. Not to insult your speakers (or your for that matter), but you may want to consider another speaker choice. Good news is your sitting on some beautiful sounding monos!

[Stercom]

Say it ain't so, Stercom...you ripped all through all those great amps and found them similar? I'll give you the Cortese and Sinhonia's, but the Haut Brion? Very different to my ear. Not to insult your speakers (or your for that matter), but you may want to consider another speaker choice. Good news is your sitting on some beautiful sounding monos!

Old Grey - Yep, I lived with those amps (not just heard them in a store demo). I can confidentially say Shindo amps all sound similar - not the same, but similar. Shindo preamps, on the other hand, have a definite progression, at least going from the Monbrison to the Vosne-Romanee. Have you ever heard the Salk Archos with a Shindo amp? I'm guessing you haven't:D

[JohnThomas]

Agree. Cortese is not bright at all, and the Haut Brion is not fuzzy. Haut Brion is very extended, sparkly and transparent, with a visceral, mighty quality to the sound. Just goes to show how room interactions and source components/music selection affect the system. :yes:

-M


I just want to let everyone know that I did edit my previous post on my visit to Don's after reading webster's dictionary on the definition of fuzzy since it can mean three different things to so many folks. I realized some words used in context tend to be miss understood. But to my ears the Haut Brion was definition number 3 below. That was what I was trying to convey.But when I go back for a second visit that could all change.

Definition of FUZZY

1
: marked by or giving a suggestion of fuzz <a fuzzy covering of felt>
2
: lacking in clarity or definition <moving the camera causes fuzzy photos>
3
: being, relating to, or invoking pleasant and usually sentimental emotions <warm and fuzzy feelings>
— fuzz·i·ly adverb

[sibelius]

Old Grey - Yep, I lived with those amps (not just heard them in a store demo). I can confidentially say Shindo amps all sound similar - not the same, but similar. Shindo preamps, on the other hand, have a definite progression, at least going from the Monbrison to the Vosne-Romanee. Have you ever heard the Salk Archos with a Shindo amp? I'm guessing you haven't:D

Have you heard the Shindo Lafon GM-70's? Big, bold and immediate. Completely different soundscape than the other Shindo amps IMO.

[pitch perfect]

...
The reason I settled on the Sinhonias is because of the additional power which allows me to use them with a wide variety of speakers. For me, Shindo amps all sound similar, its the power rating and speaker matching you must pay attention to. ..

Although the Haut Brion and Sinhonia have similar traits, it begins and ends there. Every Shindo amp has a unique outlook on the music.

If you get a chance to hear the Montille->Montrachet->Haut Brion->Corton Charlemagne->etc or the Single Ended amps, Cortese->GM70->300B LTD, they are all uniquely different. :yes:

Best,
-Matt

[Stercom]

Although the Haut Brion and Sinhonia have similar traits, it begins and ends there. Every Shindo amp has a unique outlook on the music.

If you get a chance to hear the Montille->Montrachet->Haut Brion->Corton Charlemagne->etc or the Single Ended amps, Cortese->GM70->300B LTD, they are all uniquely different. :yes:

Best,
-Matt

Hi Matt - Seems like we agree - all I was trying to convey is based on the Shindo amps I've owned they have similar traits. Of course, I'm not saying they sound the same. As was said in another thread: Throughout the line, the Shindo House sound remains, and you notice subtle changes in details, textures and tonality. You'll have to weigh the cost of upgrading the green boxes and the incremental improvement with your wallet and means.

[Mikeyc]

I'm an even bigger fan of jwhite613's avatar, but I've been using "Old Grey" for years now and thought a picture of Pai Mai would be more appropriate. As for the other Pai Mai, perhaps we can convince him to use Frank Zappa (just kidding)

Lol, I never get tired of looking at jwhite's avatar :D

[Old Grey]

Old Grey - Yep, I lived with those amps (not just heard them in a store demo). I can confidentially say Shindo amps all sound similar - not the same, but similar. Shindo preamps, on the other hand, have a definite progression, at least going from the Monbrison to the Vosne-Romanee. Have you ever heard the Salk Archos with a Shindo amp? I'm guessing you haven't:D

You're correct, I have not heard the Salk Achos. I sincerely didn't mean to challenge you, I was just expecting more of a story on how you selected your amplification other than the power seemed to match.

I fell head over heals for the F2a tube years ago and it took a long time (lots of hard work to earn the $$ & lots of listening to decide it was the right one), before it finally made it home. I guess I just bristle a bit when it's referred to as being "similar" to anything else (Shindo or not). To my ear, there just isn't anything quite like it. I won't go so far to say it's "the best" -that misses the entire point of the Shindo amp line, but I will say it's different.

In the future, I promise not to be so sensitive. I owe you a beer for calling you out -as I said, that wasn't my intention at all. Thanks so very much for sharing and congratuations on such a beautiful system.

[jwhite613]

Lol, I never get tired of looking at jwhite's avatar :D

Thanks guys. I guess I will keep it a little longer. :yes: Had thought about a change, maybe next month. :D

[FranklinLG]

Sounds like you had a great visit. The 604's are wonderful, wonderful speakers. I can't comment on "over priced", I just know they're some of the best I've heard -but I haven't heard many at that price.

I like the Orangutans too, but as you say, it's hard to make a comparison to speakers 3x the cost. They're also very different speakers than what I'm used to. They do some things extremely well (rock, big music, etc) but I prefer John's other offerings for jazz. They're a terrific addition to his line up and I think a lot depends on your musical preferences which direction you'd go.

I'm always fascinated by the Haut Brion vs. Cortese comparison. To my ear, that F2a tube is the bomb. Others hear the world quite differently. I guess that's what makes this hobby (and world for that matter) so interesting.

Can yo share some more about the Orangutans? I'd welcome your input on why and what you like about the O96's. Thanks!

[Old Grey]

Not sure I can add much more than I have, but I'll try. The O/96's present music much differently than what I'm used to with the other DeVore speakers I'm familiar with (I started out with the 8s, moved to the Nines, and now have the Silverbacks). With the Gibbon series & S'Backs, I find it to be a more intimate listening experience -instruments in the room kinda deal. With the Orangutans, the sound is more projected as if you're listening to a show. I think this is ideal for music that is projected (especially rock, big band, stage music, etc), I find the S'backs excel for smaller scale jazz trios/quartets/quintets etc. which I spend most of my time listening too. If I listened to more rock, the O/96's would be a no brainier.

One other thing to add, they do take forever to break-in. If you don't have one, get an old SS amp and let them play for a couple hundred hours before you even listen to them, otherwise you may find them disappointing out of the gate.

[lowens]

Not sure I can add much more than I have, but I'll try. The O/96's present music much differently than what I'm used to with the other DeVore speakers I'm familiar with (I started out with the 8s, moved to the Nines, and now have the Silverbacks). With the Gibbon series & S'Backs, I find it to be a more intimate listening experience -instruments in the room kinda deal. With the Orangutans, the sound is more projected as if you're listening to a show. I think this is ideal for music that is projected (especially rock, big band, stage music, etc), I find the S'backs excel for smaller scale jazz trios/quartets/quintets etc. which I spend most of my time listening too. If I listened to more rock, the O/96's would be a no brainier.

One other thing to add, they do take forever to break-in. If you don't have one, get an old SS amp and let them play for a couple hundred hours before you even listen to them, otherwise you may find them disappointing out of the gate.

From experience I dont find my 096's to be great only on certain types of music. Yes, I agree they project the music forward, this is likely caused by the large front baffle, and John's design objective, but to me the intimacy is not lacking in any way, or any less than the Gibson super 8's (never heard the 9's or silverbacks) . I find them far more intimate than all my previous hi-end speakers (Sonus fabers, Wilsons). They are hardly a one trick pony and excel at pretty much everything I can throw at them.

As far a break-in they do take awhile, but hardly sounded "disappointing" out of the box, just a little disjointed, lacking cohesion.

[Old Grey]

Don't misunderstand me, I'm a huge fan of the O96's, and if I didn't already own the Silverbacks, I'd probably have a pair. I'm familiar with the system you're listening to, it's awesome. I know the system I listen to, it's awesome. But there are differences I find worth discussing, but it is all relative. Perhaps that was lost in my original post.

So, please don't twist my words. If I find the S'backs more "intimate", it doesn't mean I think the O96's aren't. If I find the O'96's better for "rock", it doesn't mean I think they are a "one trick pony". I didn't even say they were "disappointing", I just offered fair warning to others not to expect too much out of the box. Believe it or not, some may find that "just a little disjointed, lacking cohesion" to be disappointing.

[melville1]

Please give me your impressions of these speakers with the Montille/Aurieges combo. I have an Aurieges, intend to get a Montille, and would be in the market for standmount speakers that are fairly full-range and efficient. This question is for Shindoug. I am curious about this amp/preamp combo with the Ref 3a.

Thanks,

Brian

[lowens]

Don't misunderstand me, I'm a huge fan of the O96's, and if I didn't already own the Silverbacks, I'd probably have a pair. I'm familiar with the system you're listening to, it's awesome. I know the system I listen to, it's awesome. But there are differences I find worth discussing, but it is all relative. Perhaps that was lost in my original post.

So, please don't twist my words. If I find the S'backs more "intimate", it doesn't mean I think the O96's aren't. If I find the O'96's better for "rock", it doesn't mean I think they are a "one trick pony". I didn't even say they were "disappointing", I just offered fair warning to others not to expect too much out of the box. Believe it or not, some may find that "just a little disjointed, lacking cohesion" to be disappointing.

Agreed we are both talking about preferences here, not that one speaker is better than another and from what I have read/heard the Silverbacks and the O96's are amazing, but read your post, you did say "disappointing out of the gate". I didnt twist your words. Also, I have never owned a speaker that sounded great out of the box. They all take time to open up.

In the end we both have superb systems with different attributes, there is always more than one way to skin a cat. No disrespect intended. Have a great weekend...:)

[dirtbag]

Here's my system, sorry for the bad pics

[Mikeyc]

Dirt: La Scala's very nice! Nothing like the midrange from those horns eh? Do I also see a Monbrison and Montille?

[lowens]

Here's my system, sorry for the bad pics

Very nice, clean setup. An issues with the ceiling angles?

[Mikeyc]

actually I would think the ceiling angles would help in breaking up standing waves and may even improve the sound?

[dirtbag]

Dirt: La Scala's very nice! Nothing like the midrange from those horns eh? Do I also see a Monbrison and Montille?

Mikeyc, yes that is a Monbrison and Montille.
I love my LaScalas. I keep thinking about new speakers but I really would want to audition first.

Lowens,
I think the room sounds fine, but I've never had anyone with a critical ear around to give their opinion. Next year I will redo the whole room and do some acoustical details. I'm toying with the idea of having an acoustical consultant
(such as Rives Audio) get involved. We did a project in Shaughnessy a few years ago and Rives Audio designed the room. We did all the treatments on site
and it turned out amazing. Everything was disguised into the room details. It looked so much better than having bass traps and wall panels everywhere.

[Cucumber_Jones]

Dirt - what is your first name?

I like the set up. I would like to see some better photos though.

Remind me - how did you like your Shindo with the super 8's?

[dirtbag]

Dirt - what is your first name?

I like the set up. I would like to see some better photos though.

Remind me - how did you like your Shindo with the super 8's?
Real name is Dale. I use Dirtbag as it was my first handle in forums (dirtbikes).
I'll try and get some better photos, used my phone.
The Super 8's work well with the Shindo, but in my opinion the Leben CS300XS that I use them with in our family room is a better match for them.

[dirtbag]

here are some better pics

[chessman]

Dale, very nice!!

[Masterlu]

Looking good! :thumbsup:

http://www.audioaficionado.org/attachments/shindo-labs/13678d1322541911-show-us-your-shindo-img_0855.jpg

[countingbackwards]

Very nice looking system! I like how the rack matches the speakers...and I'm sure it sounds great too!

[Cucumber_Jones]

Dale - nice set up. I bet you made the rack? Looks awesome. I may have a 6v6 soon.

[dirtbag]

Dale - nice set up. I bet you made the rack? Looks awesome. I may have a 6v6 soon.

Yes I did build the rack

[Cucumber_Jones]

Yes I did build the rack

It looks great! So hard to find a rack that works for your individual needs. Nice work!

[lowens]

Yes I did build the rack

Yes Rives would be great. With my reno I will have a 24 by 20 room in the lower floor that will likely be utilized as a home theater room. It would be cool to do a full on, home theater room, but it can get very pricey. I will leave my main, shindo system in the livingroom as I want to maximize the hours spent with it. Once the kitchen is built I am hoping the livingroom can be converted to solely a "relax and listen room"

Are custom built-ins expensive? We may do a 9 foot wall of fairly low built-ins in our kitchen/sitting area.

[dirtbag]

Are custom built-ins expensive? We may do a 9 foot wall of fairly low built-ins in our kitchen/sitting area.[/QUOTE]

Custom cabinets is like audio equipment, you can get Shindo or you can get JVC. I don't do cabinets as part of my business but I can refer you to someone.
See if Burns has someone he works well with, if not let me know and I can help out.

[Shindoadict]

Here look at my humble system

JC

[NeilNZ]

Cool!

[Cucumber_Jones]

Looks great!!

[bakerman]

Very nice! :thumbsup:

http://www.audioaficionado.org/attachments/shindo-labs/24679d1361033049-show-us-your-shindo-img_5670.jpg

[Shindoadict]

Thanks guys.

I just changed my Transparent for A/23 Wow big difference.:music:

The synergy is better with the A/23.:thumbsup:

The next move HB all the way.:yes:

Jean-Claude

[fjn04]

Very nice setup Jean-Claude. I just recently checked out another speaker cable just to try it against my A23. I can't mention the name, because a close friend may become a dealer. Anyway, the A23 acquitted itself very well against this cable, which was twice it's cost. The A23 had a more cohesive, organic quality, and this other cable was no slouch. There are reviews out there where reviewers seem to prefer other cables over the A23. I really wonder if it can get that much better though, especially when using a Shindo amp. Both reviewers I am referring to were not, btw. Jean-Claude- Are you now using A23 or Shindo cabling throughout you system? I see your Ocelia's are extremely efficient. What led you to the Haut Brion as your first choice, over say a Cortese or Montrachet for instance.

[Shindoadict]

Very nice setup Jean-Claude. I just recently checked out another speaker cable just to try it against my A23. I can't mention the name, because a close friend may become a dealer. Anyway, the A23 acquitted itself very well against this cable, which was twice it's cost. The A23 had a more cohesive, organic quality, and this other cable was no slouch. There are reviews out there where reviewers seem to prefer other cables over the A23. I really wonder if it can get that much better though, especially when using a Shindo amp. Both reviewers I am referring to were not, btw. Jean-Claude- Are you now using A23 or Shindo cabling throughout you system? I see your Ocelia's are extremely efficient. What led you to the Haut Brion as your first choice, over say a Cortese or Montrachet for instance.

Thanks Don.

I'm using a Shindo IC and A/23 for the speaker.
Now for my choice.I need a poweramp with more power and punch.
The dimension of my future room is:16X20 with cathedral ceiling and each wall will be covered with Russian birch plywood 3/4 thick.

You know Don I dont have a chance to listen the Montrachet,Cortesse and HB.

I made this choice only on the comments of the member.
I know I should be listening Montrachet and Cortesse

Don. In my dealer that I cannot make compared with different amp.

Cheers,

JC

[gortnipper]

Thanks guys.

I just changed my Transparent for A/23 Wow big difference.:music:

The synergy is better with the A/23.:thumbsup:



I saw the same thing.

[fjn04]

Hi Jean Claude- Your 301 plinth looks wonderful btw, did you have someone build that for you. You are in great shape for cabling. I use A23 SC, and actually a mix of A23 @ Shindo IC. Pretty unusual, but I bought a Shindo IC used from a dealer last year. It was a good price, so I couldn't pass on it. It replaced a run of A23 between pre>amp, so I did prefer Shindo there. I continue to use A23 from TT>SUT @ from SUT>Preamp. At one point, I would like to try more Shindo, but it sure sounds good as is. On the Amp front, when you get ready, a trip to NY would make sense for you. I know they generally have a Cortese, Montrachet, and HB.... Another option would be my amp, the CC mono, el34 version. IMHO, you should try and listen, although it would not be on your Ocelia's. On the lighter side, have you been to Aux 33 tours in Montreal. It's my favorite record store, they really have it going on there. Being from the US, the deals on NEW records aren't good, but I have had great luck with used. Cheers-Don

[Shindoadict]

Thanks Don for your offer these very appreciate

Don the plinth it's for my Thorens and I purchase in the same time to my Thorens.

The plinth was made ​​by the seller of my Thorens.

Don I will send you a PM when I am ready to listen to your CC.

For the 33 tours some time ago deal.Oh yes I have a deal in the used.

Cheers-JC

[fjn04]

Jean-Claude- Sorry, now I see in your system list that your have a Thorens 124.
Yes, whenever you are ready, you are welcome to hear my system. As for the other amps, In Living Stereo would be an option for you. Best-Don

[Shindoadict]

Jean-Claude- Sorry, now I see in your system list that your have a Thorens 124.
Yes, whenever you are ready, you are welcome to hear my system. As for the other amps, In Living Stereo would be an option for you. Best-Don

:D

[94turbo3.6]

Still the best part of my system.

[Shindoadict]

Still the best part of my system.

Nice matos Anthony:thumbsup:

[circle_h_farms]

Here is my current line up: Masseto, Cortese, Dr, feickert Blackbird, Triplanar VII, Transfiguration Phoenix, Benchmark DAC2, Mac Mini (Pure Music), and Lamhorn 1.8's. Lafites and DyQuem's on the way!
http://www.audioaficionado.org/members/circle_h_farms-albums-rack-picture2079-rack.jpg

[circle_h_farms]

PS- I love the DSD through the DAC2 via Pure Music. The best digital I've heard. Not a lot of DSD content. Channel Classics and Blue Coast have some good stuff though.

[HNY]

Lafites and DyQuem's on the way!
Wow, that's quite an addition to an already impressive system! Have you had a chance to listen to the d'Yquems and place it in relation to some of the other Shindo amps? Curious minds would like to know what they sound like! :)

[Raven]

Here's the current pre/amp combo. Hoping to mate the Shindo with a family member very soon. Though the Leben is a fantastic amp!
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n30/bradenbarclay/image.jpg

[fjn04]

Very nice Raven. Which Leben amp is that, and what is the tube type. Please share the rest of your setup. Cheers-Don

[Raven]

Thanks Don. The Leben is a CS660P, running 6550 winged c tubes right now which are working nicely. Amp is connected to Harbeth 40.1 speakers via A23 speaker cable. Analog rig is Linn LP12/Aro/Akiva/Keel/Radikal stepped up with A23 Hommage. Shindo interconnects. I've had the Shindo/Leben combo for a year now and have been very happy with it. Though the addition of the Shindo I/C's and some tube rolling made a huge difference. Still, I'm thinking of trying a Shindo power amp, even if it is only 20-25 watts. For what it says on paper, these Harbeth's are quite easy to drive.

[NeilNZ]

Even if the Harbeths say they are easy to drive, Shindo amps are really designed for high impedance, high sensitivity speakers. The only Shindo I would really recommend with any Harbeth is the Corton Charlemagne Qs. You may find differently though depending on how you listen.

[Raven]

I listen to a wide variety of music but my room is fairly small at approximately 11' X 13'. Most of the time the Leben's 40 watts work quite well, but other times it becomes almost overbearing being nearfield in a small room.

This hobby has involved a lot of reading, phone calls, and making educated guess' being in a small city without any hifi shops. Majority of the time I've been happy with how things turned out, but I might be listening to my heart instead of my head on this one. Then again, there's nothing saying I need to stick with the Harbeth's forever. It's just the first speaker I've heard that is voiced so naturally with full extension, usually there is some kind of compromise.

[fjn04]

I agree with Neil on the 80's or maybe the CC-Q's, which would give you a taste of the EL-34. That said, I have no first hand experience with the Harbeth's.

[NeilNZ]

I've owned the SHL5s and I really liked them, but that was with a Leben CS600, and it was an excellent combination. But the Shindos are just not the best match, it will sound boooring! I moved from Harbeth to DeVore when I moved into Shindo and it was a much better move. YMMV though...

[circle_h_farms]

I just got my D'yQuem amps the other day. I have not had a real chance to do any critical listening at this point, plus they barely have 5 hours on them. I'll reserve any review for later. They are gorgeous, although as you can see I've got to get a bigger rack or amps stands. http://www.audioaficionado.org/members/circle_h_farms-albums-shindo-picture2101-shindo-rack-dyquem.jpg

[TommyC]

Looks mighty nice! What's that wooden footers under the Shindo amp?

[jondkaufman]

Just unbowed and hooked up the Masseto. I have Frank on the table, hearing new stuff - the Masseto seems to get out of the way and let the Super 8 come alive...can't wait for the O/96's. Jonathan k.

[lowens]

Very nice Masseto! I own the previous version of the Masseto. I see the volume and input knobs are a difference shape now. You are in for a treat once your O96's arrive. Enjoy!

[fjn04]

circle_h_farms- congrats on the D'yQuem's. Jon d Kaufman- Yes, quite the unique set of knobs you have there. Congrats on your upgrade. Agree with lowens on the 96's. Your Montille won't be breaking a sweat with the O's.
How are you liking the 1131 blue with the TSD-15n. I assume your run the 1:20/1:40 version on the 1:40 setting. Cheers-Don

[kev313]

What the hell happened to those knobs?! I mean, those are knobs!!

[HNY]

Those certainly are some of the strangest looking knobs I've seen... Nevertheless, congratulations, Jonathan! What a super system you're putting together there. :thumbsup:

Circle H, looking for to your impressions on the D'Yquem's and how they compare to the Cortese once you have them broken in.

[pitch perfect]

What the hell happened to those knobs?! I mean, those are knobs!!

cool. :yes:

[jondkaufman]

To paraphrase C. Dundee: "A knob! That's not a knob - now this is a knob!" Yes, I was expecting a similar flat, gold, round knob, like I had on the A, but as Matt states "cool"...

[Michael7]

I'm so sad....I want Shindo gear too :-(

I'm from Germany...so no company sell Shindo....and used gear is very rare...

regards

Michael

[Schmitz]

No probs today at all, buy used.

[tin]

Hello friends Shindo
First of all excuse my bad English.
It's the first time I write in this blog attracted by the brand Shindo, I am an admirer of many years.
It has been my dream to buy it when it was distributed in Auditorium 23 in Germany, but failed to distribute it as you may know all the laws in Europe.
Years passed and I finally got it at Pitch Perfect Audio in New York, and you can imagine the problems with Customs and possible damage of the trip.
Now I'm happy with my little Aurieges-L, when I plugged it into my AudioNote Kit 1 Signature I liked, but ... when they rolled the lamps was heaven in my room dedicated.
And this is the little story of a pream highly desired by me, others have prices prohibitive to me, but I have the happiness the same.
A greeting from Spain to all lovers of Shindo

[Jerome W]

Nice story ! Thanks for sharing and welcome to AA :wave:

The Aurièges is a great preamp.
May we see a pic of your system ?

[Alberto]

Hello friends Shindo
First of all excuse my bad English.
It's the first time I write in this blog attracted by the brand Shindo, I am an admirer of many years.
It has been my dream to buy it when it was distributed in Auditorium 23 in Germany, but failed to distribute it as you may know all the laws in Europe.
Years passed and I finally got it at Pitch Perfect Audio in New York, and you can imagine the problems with Customs and possible damage of the trip.
Now I'm happy with my little Aurieges-L, when I plugged it into my AudioNote Kit 1 Signature I liked, but ... when they rolled the lamps was heaven in my room dedicated.
And this is the little story of a pream highly desired by me, others have prices prohibitive to me, but I have the happiness the same.
A greeting from Spain to all lovers of Shindo

Congratulations my friend. The Auriges-L is a fantastic preamp. If it had a phono stage I would have probably kept mine instead of moving to a Monbrison. I still regret selling it.

Welcome to the family and enjoy!

Alberto

[shindoman]

I expected tons of pictures but I only see a lot of comments and replies. How dissapointing.

[dirtbag]

Shindoman,
I'll show you mine if you show me yours!

[shindoman]

Hi dirtbag.

unfortunately, I don´t own a Shindo right now, but I sourced a pair of Shindo Catherine mono preamps and am waiting on a reply from the seller.
Wish me luck!

Sincerely, Shindoman.

(Maurice)

[Schmitz]

Shindo za Milo

[Schmitz]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8444/7848869362_2a5f0c0266_z.jpg

[kev313]

Where did you find that, Schmitz?

[Alberto]

Where did you find that, Schmitz?

More to the point ... what the heck is it ???? :D

[Higgens]

Chopsticks?

[Schmitz]

Those are fountain pens!
http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/228453-danitrio-omakase/

[Schmitz]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7139/7848852492_4e6b599280_z.jpg

[tonyd]

Those are fountain pens!
http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/228453-danitrio-omakase/

fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/228453-danitrio-omakase

[petrat]

Stunning!

[gortnipper]

Great link, Tony, thanks!

[DesW]

Well I've savored the Amps--now the 301 TT System is wowing me with its

power--

On a sturdy Vintage wood base sounded magnificent

Now on the MinusK Platform it is "el stupendo magnifique":thumbsup:

A masterwork indeed

Des

http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/team201/ShinV2.jpg

http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/team201/3018.jpg

[vortrex]

Incredible pictures.

[NOLG4EVR]

A work of art indeed. Enjoy!

[Jerome W]

Well I've savored the Amps--now the 301 TT System is wowing me with its

power--

On a sturdy Vintage wood base sounded magnificent

Now on the MinusK Platform it is "el stupendo magnifique":thumbsup:

A masterwork indeed

Des



Des : Superb !

If Verdier was not living 3 miles away from my home, this would have been my choice...,

[DesW]

Hi Jérôme, great see you are enjoying your wonderful system--yes the dark side lured me back after a too long away Hiatus!

Good Listening

DesW

[omodo]

droolworthy Des - I was wondering when you were going to post photos ;)

[magoo]

Fantastic shots, what a truly beautiful TT!!:thumbsup:

[joscad]

Hi
I am new on this forum

I'm looking for someone who has pictures of the inside of a Petrus 349A and a 349A Giscours to compare my Giscours CV391

Best regards
Joscad

[pitch perfect]

Hi
I am new on this forum

I'm looking for someone who has pictures of the inside of a Petrus 349A and a 349A Giscours to compare my Giscours CV391

Best regards
Joscad


What are you trying to accomplish? :scratch2:

-M

[jdandy]

joscad.......Welcome to Audio Aficionado. :wave:

[joscad]

Thanks ;)
I have a Giscours model with 391
I want to know if the 391 Giscours is very different from the model with 349A 349A because I own and would like to use.
On the other hand I am curious and would like to see the inside of a Petrus to understand a little price difference

Regards

Joscad

[riesling]

Joscad,

You easily get lost on the way to happiness, so...

...be thankful for what you got ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDTXljIqxRE

http://4gfc.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/calvin-hobbes-dance.jpg

[Fretless]

...be thankful for what you got ;-)

Riesling,
Thanks for the link to that tune, brings back good memories...

[jdandy]

Fretless.......Welcome to Audio Aficionado. :wave:

[omodo]

... not a lot of Shindo pics lately :scratch2:

http://i57.tinypic.com/zwewcg.jpg

[John49]

... not a lot of Shindo pics lately :scratch2:

What is that? Looks like the inside of my oven...

[omodo]

Latour horn/acoustic lens

sounds like a nice oven..

[Sancho22]

Are the Coral Beta 8 speakers still available? If yes are they being built/sold with enclosures or drivers only? I seen one of the systems similar to mine with these very efficient speakers - thanks!

[SimonYVR]

Coral Beta 8's are long out of production but periodically available on ebay etc.

Simon

[Sancho22]

Thanks Simon. I have seen a few offer drivers.

[HREN]

Hi to all. Shindo - is cool! :banana:
One of the my system:

1. EMT-930, TD-124
2. Pre-amp Shindo Masseto, Fisher-80c
3. Amp - Zeiss Dominar L, Shindo 300B Ltd
4. V.O.T.T. (1940-s Vitavox 150+S2)+ ZEISS IKOVOX D (1953)
5. Audio Note DAC5 Signature
6. JVC HD-1, Onkyo SC5509, Mcintosh 602 + 206, Tannoy System
7. Headphone - AKG K1000, Grado RS1 & 2

http://s020.radikal.ru/i717/1502/03/4c0c9b9bb1eb.jpg
http://s001.radikal.ru/i193/1502/e1/ef72998fcf63.jpg

[jdandy]

HREN.......Welcome to Audio Aficionado. :wave:

[Masterlu]

HREN... Welcome to AA! :wave:

[bgupton]

I just got my D'yQuem amps the other day. I have not had a real chance to do any critical listening at this point, plus they barely have 5 hours on them. I'll reserve any review for later. They are gorgeous, although as you can see I've got to get a bigger rack or amps stands. http://www.audioaficionado.org/members/circle_h_farms-albums-shindo-picture2101-shindo-rack-dyquem.jpg

What is the wooden box on the left?

[Hotzenplotz]

Altec A7

[closdesducs]

It's a Shunyata Hydra AC power distribution center. Came out around 2001.

[Hotzenplotz]

Its all about the Shindo here!

[teojjsg]

Finally shifted to my new place and now have a room for my setup. Some photos to share my friends.

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd36/teojjsg/Mobile%20Uploads/9EFE74AB-4F70-401F-B039-03BDAC3343F5_zpssc35sotd.jpg (http://s223.photobucket.com/user/teojjsg/media/Mobile%20Uploads/9EFE74AB-4F70-401F-B039-03BDAC3343F5_zpssc35sotd.jpg.html)

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd36/teojjsg/Mobile%20Uploads/61ADB071-82D7-4767-A7E3-17E910A82D45_zpsndtxixcw.jpg (http://s223.photobucket.com/user/teojjsg/media/Mobile%20Uploads/61ADB071-82D7-4767-A7E3-17E910A82D45_zpsndtxixcw.jpg.html)

[privilegia]

Very fine musical system...

Some more information please?

regards

[fjn04]

Sweet looking system. Looks like a sloped ceiling, which should be a good for sound.... What type of speakers are you driving. Looks like you have at least two choices there (-: Cheers -Don

[Hotzenplotz]

I suppose that its not a real Shindo!

[755a]

I suppose that its not a real Shindo!

What are you talking about?

[DesW]

Nice clean system Teo--fine crafted Speakers--enjoy

Des

[Hotzenplotz]

what you mean?

[Hotzenplotz]

one thing is modified

[teojjsg]

Thank you for the kind comments. The roof is indeed sloped at 45 deg all the way from ceiling to the floor. My local sound guy told me it is bad for music though. He actually suggested building a vertical wall behind my system. Why would you think it is good?

Cd player is Esoteric K03
TT : Garrard 401 restored by Loricraft. Customed plinth. Jelco 750 tonearm. Ortofon SPU Classic GM E cart.
Pre amp : Shindo VR
Amp : Shindo Western E 300B Limited
Speakers : Diatone P-610 16ohm, Feastrex NF5EX 16ohm field coil, and GPA 604 8ohm. All in custom boxes.
Cables and ICs : Kondo and Auditorium 23 speaker cables. Shindo ICs. Shindo power cables.

As i have just moved in to my new place, no room treatment yet. Any kind souls willing to give some suggestions? Room size is 6m (W) by 7m (L) by 4.2m (H). No windows on sloping roof side but wall in front of speakers has window (3m by 1.5m) and wooden door (2.4m by 1m). Cheers.

[Hotzenplotz]

Hi,
my room size is: 8.32m

[junker]

8.3 m^2?

[Hotzenplotz]

No its not, 38.2m^2!

[junker]

8.32m is a length not an area.

[Vinyljh]

Junker... You're wasting your typing fingers. Even after Ivan's warning, he is still trolling.

Jonathan

[755a]

Junker... You're wasting your typing fingers. Even after Ivan's warning, he is still trolling. Jonathan

Beyond a waste of time.

[Hotzenplotz]

Bart

The answer is, no. Who knows, I may end up kicking myself in the end for not going with the 101e MK II's but I decided to try something different.

[Vinyljh]

Ivan, can you please stop his trolling? Cutting and pasting old unrelated posts and just begging for attention with nonsensical posts.

Jonathan

[Hotzenplotz]

That could be against you regualr law, too.

[junker]

Ok makes sense. Sorry for the feeding! =)

[755a]

That could be against you regualr law, too. I vote this a post of the year.

[Hotzenplotz]

UR funny man!
Can someone pls elaborate about asian 300B, too?

[755a]

UR funny man! Can someone pls elaborate about asian 300B, too?

An you spew useless garbage from your keyboard.

[Jerome W]

You see guys, there are some people worser tha

[Hotzenplotz]

I got something I wanna share.
You got something to spill, spill it.

[junker]

Is there a way to block all posts from a user being displayed @ AA?

[Hotzenplotz]

Try to make any substantiol comment to shindos?

[Still-One]

Is there a way to block all posts from a user being displayed @ AA?
Yes, you can block a individual posters but only those who do this will not see his posts.

[Hotzenplotz]

That could be against regualr law, too.

[riesling]

looking for an explanation why the Shindo forum becomes more and more unattractive and a pain to follow and came across this :
Scabies is an itchy, highly contagious skin disease caused by an infestation by the itch mite Sarcoptes scabiei
Maybe this guy is a carrier of a disease...?
http://www.opencaching.de/images/uploads/3C2E3A3A-3E15-102D-A6C1-00163E38B4CF.jpg

[Jerome W]

looking for an explanation why the Shindo forum becomes more and more unattractive and a pain to follow and came across this : Scabies is an itchy, highly contagious skin disease caused by an infestation by the itch mite Sarcoptes scabiei Maybe this guy is a carrier of a disease...?

Your avatar shows my favorite dog by far.
Whippet or Greyhound ?

[riesling]

Jagdhunde in Spanien: Fotograf zeigt ausgemusterte Tiere - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Panorama (http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/jagdhunde-in-spanien-fotograf-zeigt-ausgemusterte-tiere-fotostrecke-127503.html)
Galgo espanol ...likes Mozart and Miles ... bites shady characters ... but this is out of topic ;-)

[bluemoon]

Hello HREN , I am new to Shindo and EMT TT . How do you connect EMT930 to
the Shindo phono ?

[junker]

Using the MM input of your pre-amp with an appropriate step-up transformer. What cartridge are you using? 1mV output loaded to 200 ohm EMT? Shindo dealers usually go with an Auditorium23 SUT (regular or homage level).

[bluemoon]

Thanks Junker , How to connect the A23 SUT to the arm on the EMT ?

[bluemoon]

How should I connect A23 SUT to my EMT Tonearm ?

[junker]

I have no idea how your arm is wired. Can you describe it for us in more detail please? And again specifically what cartridge are you using?

Most step-up transformers - including A23 - have RCA in and RCA out. Typically you use a short pair of RCA cables to the SUT and a short pair of RCA cables to the MM input of your Shindo. You should only be using RCA cables that use Switchcraft connectors as used in both A23 and Shindo RCA cables. Both Shindo and A23 gear use Switchcraft connectors exclusively.

[Masterlu]

bluemoon... Welcome to AA! :wave:

[bluemoon]

I am using Ortolan RMA 297 tonearm with EMT TSD15 cartridge. The the tonearm is
wired to a connecter that connect to EMT phono equalizer amplifier . I have a custom
made box that plugs into this connector that provides RCA out . The internal of this interface box is just a connector that wires to RCA connectors .Could this interface box has negative effect ?

[junker]

I think you are probably good. Maybe swap out the connectors to Switchcraft if you will be using A23 or Shindo cables. Not a deal breaker here but you don't want to use anything else into Shindo gear if you care about not destroying the connectors. They are low mass and don't hold up with super-heavy, oversized, tight-fitting plugs. Switchcraft into Switchcraft fits like a rifle bolt. CLICK!

w w w . switchcraft.com/Drawings/3501FRX_CD.pdf

A23 makes a SUT that is compatible with EMT since Shindo dealers also sell EMT. But if I understand correctly they have one model for Denon 103 / EMT, and other for Ortofon. If that is true then I would have a problem with it because the Denon is <0.3mV and should be loaded about 100 ohms where the EMT puts out ~1mV (at record playing speeds) and is loaded at about 200-250 ohms. There is no way to truly optimize a SUT for both. A 5x or 8x amorphous core Lundahl would be great... especially the silver AG version. K&K, the US dealer, has em. I have 1:8 and 1:16 Lundahl LL1933 (Permalloy core). Nice. The permalloy core is more traditional and bit warmer, where the amorphous core has more detail and is a bit cooler. You can adjust loading with a simple resistor. Hope that helps.

[Vinyljh]

Never get caught up in the math of a step up transformer. So much more goes into step up design than simple math rules. Always listen, the only way with step up transformers. In many listening tests, with various transformers, I have preferred the "wrong" setting way over the right one.

Jonathan

[755a]

My standard a23 SUT sounded great with both my Denon 103 and my EMT TSD 15. That being said my Hommage a23 sut with my EMT is out of this world.

[fclombardo]

Nice Shindo system. :thumbsup: Giscours, Cortese, Latour field coils.


http://www.stereophile.com/images/imagecache/960-wide/photopost/data/502/1718Basement_095.jpg


Brinkmann Balance TT? :thumbsup:

[fjn04]

I would think either Balance or LaGrange? I heard the Spyder with Shindo earlier this year, and was mightily impressed. The Bardo wasn't quite my taste, so a bit less so.
The Spyder is Belt drive, and I believe uses the Bardo platter and Balance motor.

[fclombardo]

I would think either Balance or LaGrange? I heard the Spyder with Shindo earlier this year, and was mightily impressed. The Bardo wasn't quite my taste, so a bit less so.
The Spyder is Belt drive, and I believe uses the Bardo platter and Balance motor.

I own a Balance with new Sinus motor. I can assure you it is a great show in my living room :)

[bluemoon]

I have a field coil Pettite Latour . It has a loud hum sound . Is that normal ?
Anybody has this experience ?

[Loop4fun]

I have a field coil Pettite Latour . It has a loud hum sound . Is that normal ? Anybody has this experience ?

What kind of hum? Through the speaker, or from the speaker with no signal? I had a very low volume transformer hum from the power supplies before they broke in, but none after a few weeks of being powered up.

[junker]

Troubleshooting 101.

Both speakers? Multiple sources? With different speakers?

I'd speak with your dealer.

[bluemoon]

I have the new speakers for 4 weeks . I am broking it it for 3 weeks . The hum sound is
through the speakers with no signal and both speakers. I could hear the hum even when the volume is low .

[Vinyljh]

Why not contact your dealer? They are the ones that can help sort the issue.

Jonathan

[bluemoon]

Because the dealer said it is normal.