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joeinid
08-23-2011, 10:20 AM
It uses EL34's for 60 watts/ch. I don't see it on their website but it's out there. Reissue, new old stock new piece? I wonder how it compares to their LP66S and LP70S .... :scratch2: It might be something I'd like to try on my Cornwall III's and Nola Micros.

Thanks!

Tonepub
08-23-2011, 10:36 AM
Its brand new. Sonically its right inbetween the two you mentioned.

joeinid
08-23-2011, 10:39 AM
Its brand new. Sonically its right inbetween the two you mentioned.

Thanks Jeff,

This is getting interesting :smoking:

Tonepub
08-23-2011, 05:22 PM
Joe, you might even consider a nice MV60SE with EL34's. That was a sweet amp, and you can usually find them for about $1200 -$1500. They also made them with 6550's, but not quite the midrange magic of the EL34 version and with your Klipsch the diff between 40 and 60 wpc isn't going to be a big deal.

joeinid
08-23-2011, 05:27 PM
Thanks Jeff! I am on it now. I love the EL34's.

joeinid
08-23-2011, 05:39 PM
Jeff,

There is one on Agon now. I can't tell what tubes are in it.

Joe

Tonepub
08-23-2011, 08:27 PM
Drop the owner a note... Most of them were 6550 based. The 6550 amp is very good, but the EL34's got a bit of extra sweetness. If you decide that even 40wpc is still way more power than you need, you can send it back to CJ for the Triode mod, which gives even more of that, but drops power to about 20-25 wpc.

it's pretty cool on high efficiency speakers such as yours, and while the Shindo moonies will squeal in anguish, this configuration comes very close...

joeinid
08-23-2011, 08:36 PM
the Shindo moonies will squeal in anguish

:laughin:

Ha! I'm waiting for a response.

Thank you.

Kevinkwan
08-23-2011, 09:20 PM
...and while the Shindo moonies will squeal in anguish, this configuration comes very close...

In numerous past posts, you've claimed to have never heard Shindo. So how could you know the CJ set-up would come close?

Tonepub
08-23-2011, 11:41 PM
I haven't heard Shindo in my system in my room. I've heard it recently in a couple of systems with gear I was familiar with.

Kevinkwan
08-24-2011, 12:07 AM
Cool. Thanks!

Jerome W
08-24-2011, 02:38 AM
Joe,
If I was in the US, I would buy the Classic 60 from this seller. It is abrand new unit from a CJ dealer. You get the full warranty.
I would personnaly love to hear a new EL34 based amp in my system.
It must sound......"delicious" !

joeinid
08-24-2011, 02:58 AM
Thanks Jérôme,

I think that's the right way to go. I am sorry for this being off topic but I pulled these out of the closet and re-tubed them. Thor TPA-30 mono blocks. Sounded constricted when I first turned them on but after a few rounds of biasing and getting warmed up, they are sounding better and starting to bloom, amazing. I've had them 9 almost 10 years.

Joe

joeinid
08-24-2011, 03:15 AM
OMG! They are alive and breathing. Pretty damn amazing after all these years with fresh tubes. Hmmmmm. What to do next?

Joe

Jerome W
08-24-2011, 04:49 AM
OMG! They are alive and breathing. Pretty damn amazing after all these years with fresh tubes. Hmmmmm. What to do next?

Joe

Joe,
just buy the CJ Classic 60 and open a store !!
BTW, I will buy the CJ from you if you don't like it !

joeinid
08-24-2011, 05:11 AM
Joe,
just buy the CJ Classic 60 and open a store !!
BTW, I will buy the CJ from you if you don't like it !

:laughin:

There's nothing like a sweet tube amp :thumbsup: I'll have to find someone to buy my MC601's :(

:tresbon:

Jerome W
08-24-2011, 06:38 AM
:laughin:

There's nothing like a sweet tube amp :thumbsup: I'll have to find someone to buy my MC601's :(

:tresbon:

I could buy them maybe !

joeinid
08-24-2011, 01:14 PM
I could buy them maybe !

No, your getting something tubey. I know exactly what I'm going to do. :scratch2:

More to follow ....

joeinid
08-31-2011, 06:52 PM
According to Conrad Johnson, the Classic Sixty amplifier is a special product available exclusively from one dealer - Spearit Sound in Northampton MA.

Hmmmm.

Puma Cat
08-31-2011, 07:40 PM
According to Conrad Johnson, the Classic Sixty amplifier is a special product available exclusively from one dealer - Spearit Sound in Northampton MA.

Hmmmm.

Yeah, Spearit and C-J are pretty tight. Spearit is one of C-J's biggest dealers, and they have a close relationship with C-J. They often get the last runs of product before discontinuation, or items sent in for refurb for reselling.

My guess is the Classic Sixty is an LP66 that is rewired and/or "re-transformered" to use EL-34s instead of 6550s. C-J provided this "mod" with some of their amps in the past, like the MV-60, if memory serves.

Rafale
09-01-2011, 01:07 PM
from the UK importer website

:: conrad-johnson CLASSIC SIXTY/SIXTY SE VALVE AMPLIFIER

After a fairly long and much more than fairly successful life, conrad-johnson's entry level valve power amplifier, the LP66S (and Series 2) has just been replaced with a, potentially, much more exciting and promising alternative. Knowing Bill Conrad's and Lew Johnson's immense business acumen, one should not be surprised to register certain, well proven and wisely adopted (for example, within the automotive industry) "common platform" methods of designing and producing their most recent products. In short: one chassis and one carefully designed printed circuit motherboard that can be populated with numerous variations on a basic theme; guided by the level of sonic performance and, at least equally so, final price of the product you would like it to carry.
CLASSIC SIXTY and CLASSIC SIXTY SE (for Special Edition, of course) are excellent sounding and suitably well-priced proof of the pudding. What we have here is a comfortable 60 Watts per channel of reliable tube amplifier power, combined with high quality parts and EL34 output valves (in the standard Sixty) and very best parts we are used to see CJD use (Vishay resistors, proprietary Teflon capacitors all over the place rather than just bypassing polypropylenes, superior input sockets and speaker terminals, better internal wiring, etc.) paired with new KT120 output tubes (in the Sixty SE). Just the right partners for the already highly acclaimed and established ET3 and ET3SE preamplifier…
UK pricing has been set at £3,700 inc VAT for the Classic Sixty and £4,700 inc VAT for the Classic Sixty SE. Availability: mid-September 2011.

joeinid
09-01-2011, 02:02 PM
Thanks Philippe,

"paired with new KT120 output tubes (in the Sixty SE)"

I wonder how the KT120's compare to the EL34's, maybe not as sweet as the EL34's.

Rafale
09-01-2011, 02:08 PM
Thanks Philippe,

"paired with new KT120 output tubes (in the Sixty SE)"

I wonder how the KT120's compare to the EL34's, maybe not as sweet as the EL34's.

KT 120......Yes it is very surprising
and we do not know what becomes LP125M...

joeinid
09-01-2011, 02:24 PM
KT 120......Yes it is very surprising
and we do not know what becomes LP125M...

Oh how the plot thickens :D

Rafale
09-01-2011, 02:35 PM
We are probably going to attend a revision of the range of CJ amplifiers and it begins through the bottom

Puma Cat
09-01-2011, 02:48 PM
Yeah, CJ seems to turn over their product portfolio pretty quickly. The LP70/140/275 series didn't last very long. Glad i got mine when I did. Not that is all that important, but the LP66/LP125M are nowhere near as pretty as the LP70/140/275 with their arched vestibule look for the input tubes.

Rafale
09-01-2011, 03:02 PM
Why is the commercial launch of Sixty reserved for a single American retailer ie Spearit sound ?

Puma Cat
09-01-2011, 03:29 PM
Good question. Perhaps shoot an email to Spearit about that....

Rafale
09-01-2011, 04:16 PM
spearit retails the Sixty at 3750 USD....but..wow.. there is an introductory at 3000 USD !!