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Raindog031
08-16-2015, 01:40 PM
New incarnation of already excellent SS integrated from the Danish Gryphon Audio has been presented in Munich Hi-Fi show. Except of changed appearance that follows design of Mephisto, they improved preamp with tehnology of their flagship Pandora pre, improved volume control,new improved state of the art parts,redisigned and improved amp with tehnology taken from Mephisto and also more power. Now it goes 300W 8 Ohm - 600W 4 Ohm and 950W in 2 Ohm. This integrated aint cheap...cca 15000Eu will be his price when it gets out in two months...it has optional modules for phono and DAC...dac will be based on much expensive big brother reference Kalliope...dac module will cost about 6000Eu but atleast you can forget about interconnect cable.
what to say...i have original Diablo which is a great product IMO but ten years has passed after Gryphon started production...now they learned enough and better parts are available to make meaningful step up from original Diablo from evolutional sense...they dont have habbit to make new integrated every two years just to make money but with minimal upgrading...in ongoing tradition of Gryphon integrateds i have no doubt they will make even more better amp...i allready talked with my dealer for audition when it comes out...
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Gryphon Diablo 300 (http://www.gryphon-audio.dk/products/integrated-amplifiers/diablo-300.aspx)

Kind Regards

Sidekick
08-16-2015, 02:33 PM
One of the most intriguing product launches at the Munich show in May this year. One of the first units will reach our showroom in Stockholm soon. Can't wait :)

Down Under
08-22-2015, 12:06 AM
I want one.
Do you think it would too much to have one in a bedroom system?

Eisener Bart
08-22-2015, 01:55 AM
I listened this device 1 week ago. I am not impressed.

Raindog031
08-22-2015, 04:56 AM
Eisener...i see you are a man of a few words...please, where did you have chance to hear this amp, how long was session, in what conditions was the room you listened and with what speakers, source and cables. Im curious about your refined taste...what pieces of equipment impress you and please if you dont mind list us your impressive system you got at home...i know i sound like KGB agent a little with these questions but we are in a public forum so folks would like to know a few arguments how this or any amp sounds when describing...not just trowing a bone...

Eisener Bart
08-22-2015, 05:19 AM
Eisener...i see you are a man of a few words...please, where did you have chance to hear this amp, how long was session, in what conditions was the room you listened and with what speakers, source and cables. Im curious about your refined taste...what pieces of equipment impress you and please if you dont mind list us your impressive system you got at home...i know i sound like KGB agent a little with these questions but we are in a public forum so folks would like to know a few arguments how this or any amp sounds when describing...not just trowing a bone...

Speakers - Davis Acoustics, model Cesar.
Cables: 1) acoustic - Micromega, 2) interconnect and power - some american brand, very rare in Ukraine. I don't remember name, I may ask.

It was setup of my friend, I heard these speakers with 4 various amps including Cary SLI-80 and ASR. I know this System about 10 years, after any up-grades my friend always invites me for auditioning.

Room (about 20 sq meters) - acoustically prepared a little bit, but nothing special.

It was my last visit 2 weeks ago, I've been with my companion, we've been dissapointed by sound of System on classical music (big orchestra). System sounds good on small chamber orchestra, jazz and vocal music.

I don't know why this disaster happened - may be just absence of synergy between speakers and amp or something else. But I never met such problem with audio eqiupment with such price tags.

Our verdict was - amp.
It can be taken into consideration as version of course.
Very strange.

Few words re Gryphon brand.
I remember claims on Soundex.ru regarding exfoliation of tracks on plates of Gryphon amps.

Eisener Bart
08-22-2015, 05:25 AM
I even have 1 photo (forgot about it). :D

There are feet under CD Player - it's my own manufacture.

http://f19.ifotki.info/org/40f0a7e9a400f4f245fc7678681cb1f32eafa3222895518.jp g (http://i-fotki.info/)

Raindog031
08-22-2015, 06:32 AM
Eisener thanx for your time to write this up...Did not heard that model od Davis Acoustic speakers but if im not wrong their retail was about 2500Eu which is very big difference between pedigree of that equipment and Gryphon...Diablo is VERY neutral amp that reveals all good and bad things in system so by my experience it could be system synergy very likely the problem. I know this becuz i have that amp from your picture and that is old Diablo not new and i had chance to try it with more than few cables sources and speakers and the best results was when matched with equipment of similiar pedigree. Im also dissapoined to hear it did not work for you cuz on my Dynaudio C4 mk2, Kuzma Reference mk2 turntable and crystal cables ultra ic and speaker cables actualy works very well with all music but works best with large orchestral music...dynamic, soundstage, details, timber and rest is on level so this statment of yours really suprised me. Maybe you just did not like it...anyway thanx on your time...

analog brother
08-22-2015, 10:43 PM
I want one.
Do you think it would too much to have one in a bedroom system?

no, not too much for bedroom.
it only takes up one space on your rack which is ideal.
will drive any speaker as well, so you can have low-sensitivity mini monitors and such. :thumbsup:

having said that, have heard the old diablo, and while it was good, it really is not even close to the gryphon separates that i have heard. the marketing always points to minimal compromise by choosing the integrated approach, but it's much more than that, unfortunately.

Raindog031
08-23-2015, 05:32 AM
Analog brother i agree with your statement, real Gryphon are their "no free lunch" class A separates and stereo amps...Atilla and Diablo are their entry level high bias class A/B components...but their price difference is not to forget...Anitlleon Sig stereo cost about 30K eu and lets say Mirage pre is bout 23K eu...and how much would quality cables cost for them...clearly you must spend fortune to buy their separates (not to mention Mephisto and Pandora)...even in second hand...would like to have them, but back to the real world Diablo IS one of the best and strongest SS one box solution out there if you like the flavor...i wonder how big step up will new Diablo be...

Eisener Bart
08-23-2015, 06:35 AM
I just talk to my friend, he changed acoustic cable.
So may be it will change something in Sound.
I gonna visit him soon.

true blue
08-23-2015, 12:45 PM
I listened this device 1 week ago. I am not impressed.

Where did you listen to this ??

true blue
08-23-2015, 12:48 PM
Speakers - Davis Acoustics, model Cesar.
Cables: 1) acoustic - Micromega, 2) interconnect and power - some american brand, very rare in Ukraine. I don't remember name, I may ask.

It was setup of my friend, I heard these speakers with 4 various amps including Cary SLI-80 and ASR. I know this System about 10 years, after any up-grades my friend always invites me for auditioning.

Room (about 20 sq meters) - acoustically prepared a little bit, but nothing special.

It was my last visit 2 weeks ago, I've been with my companion, we've been dissapointed by sound of System on classical music (big orchestra). System sounds good on small chamber orchestra, jazz and vocal music.

I don't know why this disaster happened - may be just absence of synergy between speakers and amp or something else. But I never met such problem with audio eqiupment with such price tags.

Our verdict was - amp.
It can be taken into consideration as version of course.
Very strange.

Few words re Gryphon brand.
I remember claims on Soundex.ru regarding exfoliation of tracks on plates of Gryphon amps.

Must have been the old Diablo -or something else - you listened to, the Diablo 300 is not out for sale yet.

Glisse
08-23-2015, 07:38 PM
The photo Eisener Bart posted of the amp he heard in his friend's system indicates it is the old model, and not a Gryphon Diablo 300.

Down Under
08-23-2015, 11:12 PM
no, not too much for bedroom.
it only takes up one space on your rack which is ideal.
will drive any speaker as well, so you can have low-sensitivity mini monitors and such. :thumbsup:

having said that, have heard the old diablo, and while it was good, it really is not even close to the gryphon separates that i have heard. the marketing always points to minimal compromise by choosing the integrated approach, but it's much more than that, unfortunately.


Good,now I can get some serious heat into the bedroom.....

wizard
09-04-2015, 11:25 AM
At Enceintes et Musiques in France.

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Raindog031
09-06-2015, 06:04 AM
well wizard...unleash the beast...tell us what it sounds...more better if you have experience with the old diablo tell us differences you noticed most between models...and gear used with please...

wizard
09-07-2015, 01:54 PM
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wizard
09-07-2015, 01:58 PM
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wizard
09-07-2015, 02:09 PM
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Phono module installed.
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2 effective Sanken 2SC3264 + 2SA1295 at the bottom = output current 34A.
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denisg
09-10-2015, 06:04 AM
Hi Wizard,

Congratulations on new 'devil', hardly wait for your observation on it especially if you can compare with old devil.
Interesting is to see that you have 2 pieces of Diablo 300, also that you install phono module by yourself, not made by factory.
Did you order D/A module for the second?
Also waiting for more photos.

wizard
09-11-2015, 11:05 AM
Hi Wizard,

Congratulations on new 'devil', hardly wait for your observation on it especially if you can compare with old devil.
Interesting is to see that you have 2 pieces of Diablo 300, also that you install phono module by yourself, not made by factory.
Did you order D/A module for the second?
Also waiting for more photos.

Not my devil - it was at Enceintes et Musiques in France.
But the sound is only after 2 days much better than the old one.

Masterlu
09-11-2015, 05:04 PM
denisg... Welcome to AA! :wave:

bigblue
09-12-2015, 11:24 AM
Not my devil - it was at Enceintes et Musiques in France.
But the sound is only after 2 days much better than the old one.

Wizard, do you recall if spades was used on the speaker cables? I know that earlier Gryphon models have had issues with the opening at the binding post being too tight.

wizard
09-16-2015, 12:33 PM
Diablo 300 Phonomodule.

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Fully discrete low noise circuit, dual mono, mirrored pcb layout, no opamps in the signal path. Super short signal path, No cables. Legato Legacy technology. Selectable MC loading.

denisg
09-18-2015, 06:14 AM
denisg... Welcome to AA! :wave:

Thank you boss:thumbsup:

denisg
09-18-2015, 06:30 AM
Hi Wizard,

This is like Chinese torture :64714-slap:, please give us more of your impressions also more pics :D.
If possible also any info about D/A.
Thank you.

Off topic: never seen such crazy collection of Smiles, I had to use them. :icon_greenbouncer:

denisg
09-18-2015, 07:02 AM
Just find video on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8eXtrPISdo

Unfortunately doesn't understand french language, but it is nice to see Diablo 300 in details, very impressive inside :eek2:.

trueblue
10-07-2015, 08:29 AM
Just find video on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8eXtrPISdo

Unfortunately doesn't understand french language, but it is nice to see Diablo 300 in details, very impressive inside :eek2:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeQXNimsvqk

lobwah
02-25-2016, 05:14 AM
Please try and pull yourselves away for a few minutes Diablo 300 owners :D
Id love to hear any feedback about this amp ..

denisg
04-19-2016, 06:37 AM
Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Diablo 300 But Were Afraid to Ask you can find in this review:

Mono and Stereo High-End Audio Magazine: Gryphon Diablo 300 integrated amplifier review (http://www.monoandstereo.com/2016/04/gryphon-diablo-300-integrated-amplifier.html)

Enjoy.

sdepass
01-28-2017, 02:12 AM
I am glad i found this post as I am looking at maybe getting the new amp and i have it down to 3 choices, Diablo, BHK 300's or T+A PA 3000HV. Any thoughts would be welcomed...

bigblue
03-16-2017, 05:55 PM
I just got the Diablo 300. It replaced Jeff Rowland Continuum S2.
In comparison (in my room, with my speakers, and my ears) the former is far superior.
SixMoons named it "possibly the best integrated in the world".
The areas where I find it to shine the most is bass control, depth of soundstage, micro details and speed.

jdandy
03-16-2017, 06:54 PM
I just got the Diablo 300. It replaced Jeff Rowland Continuum S2.
In comparison (in my room, with my speakers, and my ears) the former is far superior.
SixMoons named it "possibly the best integrated in the world".
The areas where I find it to shine the most is bass control, depth of soundstage, micro details and speed.

bigblue.......I certainly would enjoy owning a Gryphon Diablo 300 integrated amplifier. By all reports it is an amazing audio component. I have read a few comments where the looks have been criticized but I like the chiseled aesthetics. It is certainly not a component you would mistake for some other manufacturer.


http://www.soundstageultra.com/images/stories/equipment2/201609_gryphon_opener.png



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audio bill
03-16-2017, 08:50 PM
Too bad that after all these years they still have no active US distribution.

jdandy
03-16-2017, 09:18 PM
Too bad that after all these years they still have no active US distribution.

Bill.......I agree. It is a pity because I think the US market would welcome Gryphon. Perhaps it is their own corporate policies that keep it from happening.

bigblue
03-17-2017, 04:37 AM
Thanks jdandy. I agree about the looks. The JR was a prettier think. Gryphons products are more brutal in their looks.
I hope they find a partner in the US in order to let more people have a listen. I don't know the reason for the absence but here in Sweden they have just "rearranged" their distribution channels. Kicking some out - bringing new ones in.

cmarin
03-17-2017, 10:01 AM
Bill.......I agree. It is a pity because I think the US market would welcome Gryphon. Perhaps it is their own corporate policies that keep it from happening.



Bill, I was very interested in obtaining a Gryphon amp a little over a year ago. It turned out to be a frustrating ordeal to say the least and only in part due to Gryphon's lack of a US distributor.

What I understood, and could be incorrect, is that Gryphon had a bad experience with a previous US distributor and it soured them on the US market.

audio bill
03-17-2017, 11:24 AM
I believe that problems with their previous US distributor (decades ago!) as you stated along with a less than favorable review of one of their products by TAS killed their interest in marketing the products here. Their website states that they're "seeking a well established, experienced distributor only" for the US but it's been that way for years.

Apexorca
03-18-2017, 04:16 PM
It's a bit sad that Gryphon has problems to get good partners. They are one of the best Hi-End producers there is. The North Americans should be able to listen to them.

Douglas
03-18-2017, 09:42 PM
I have listened extensively to Gryphon products including the Diablo 300( which is my top choice for an integrated) since we have a dealer in Cape Town, about 30min drive from my home.

Count me a huge fan, the products are simply in a different class. Gryphon would be my choice if I had no limits on a budget.

bigblue
03-19-2017, 03:49 AM
I agree Gryphon is very special. The sense of speed and realism that my Diablo 300 presents in combination with a lot of spacial information really brings me to the set of the musicians.

gtl
03-20-2017, 08:32 AM
Anyone managed to compare the Diablo 300 to Pass X250.8 or X350.8? I prefer the Pass Labs dealer locally or I wouldn't hesitate to go for the Diablo.

bigblue
03-21-2017, 07:56 AM
That would be an interesting comparison.
As you know the Pass gear you are referring to are power amps and the Diablo 300 is an integrated amp.
What pre amp do you have today to go with the Pass Labs?
I have not heard the machines side by side in the same system.
But my guess is that if you are looking for a slightly richer and fuller sound - Pass could be the better choice. But if speed and dynamics is higher on your agenda the Diablo might a better match. Both are IMO slightly on the warmer side.
I think it all comes down to personal preferences and system integration.

gtl
03-21-2017, 09:00 AM
I currently use a Ayre QX-5 twenty as a DAC/Pre and would look to upgrade to a standalone pre in future.

With the Diablo I would not need to bother with a preamp, and the Pass integrated seems to be using the XP10 which is far from their top of the line preamps. Going with their power amp would let me have more options in future. Tube amp perhaps?

Gryphon separates are out of the question for me, considering their price and size.

sdepass
04-29-2017, 10:05 PM
If one had the choice? I have a PS DSD and no pre amp it just goes straight into my amps.
Would you go for a Diablo with the dac as an option. I would be interested if anyone has heard both dacs and which do they consider the better of the two??

frequentflyer
05-15-2017, 09:27 AM
Why has not an importer picked up the line and sell it in the USA?

audio bill
05-15-2017, 11:05 AM
Gryphon had issues with their previous US distributor many years ago, so they're very hesitant in selecting a new potential partner. Their website has said they're seeking an established US distributor but that's been the case for a long time now.

SCAudiophile
05-15-2017, 03:59 PM
I believe that problems with their previous US distributor (decades ago!) as you stated along with a less than favorable review of one of their products by TAS killed their interest in marketing the products here. Their website states that they're "seeking a well established, experienced distributor only" for the US but it's been that way for years.
They probably did not kiss the right backsides and grease the right palms with ad dollars sufficiently at TAS or Stereophile. In a fair review scenario, Gryphon products would get a A+++ rating hands down.

For that matter Esoteric products have been absent from the recommended components lists for some time as well. Don't you just love objective reporting?!?

aardvarkbark
05-15-2017, 10:50 PM
Why has not an importer picked up the line and sell it in the USA?

Gryphon had issues with their previous US distributor many years ago, so they're very hesitant in selecting a new potential partner. Their website has said they're seeking an established US distributor but that's been the case for a long time now.

A Gryphon rep had posted a couple months ago on another forum that they were/are genuinely interested in re-entering the US market, but only with the 'right' distributor, though I don't know what the criteria are. I know Vitus had a falling out with their US distributor a while back, and get the impression that they just decided to select a limited number of dealers and import directly to them. I wonder if Gryphon could/should do the same. They sure get great reviews from owners (Europe and Australia) on various audio forums, and they do maintain an authorized service center in the US.

bigblue
06-12-2017, 05:00 PM
Good news for those interested to get to know Gryphon better in the US:
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/gryphon-audio-designs-returns-to-north-american-homes-via-on-a-higher-note-llc-as-its-exclusive-distributor/

GreginNH1
06-15-2017, 06:45 PM
Good news for those interested to get to know Gryphon better in the US:
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/gryphon-audio-designs-returns-to-north-american-homes-via-on-a-higher-note-llc-as-its-exclusive-distributor/


Hopefully O'Hanlon will actually stock some units. He just lost Luxman a few months ago. My wait on my Luxman gear was always agonizing and filled with "intersting twists". I'm wondering who will do service on these (not that they should need it).

Arcilius
08-28-2017, 01:47 AM
Can someone compare the Diablo 300 with DAC against other high end integrated amps like McIntosh MA8000 or Devialet 800/1000 Pro ?

bigblue
08-28-2017, 06:33 PM
I have not heard the three in the same room and/or with the same equipment. So the impressions will be affected by their respective set up. But in general terms I would characterize MA on the warmer side - Devialet on the more detailed/analytical side. And Gryphon is in the middle between the two. All tree is great amps - its just a matter of taste and synergy with the other equipment you have. I went with the Diablo 300 and are still amazed at its ability to make me feel involved in the music. With the Gryphon in the set up I went from listening to music - to experiencing it.

Arcilius
08-30-2017, 03:04 AM
I have made an inquiry with some audio friends and they suggested to look at swiss integrated as a reference for ultra high end amps. I don't want to mention any names just to keep the topic on point.

Deep down, I am really blown away with all the rave reviews of the Diablo 300.

Sermorebeer
09-17-2017, 10:57 PM
I have not heard the three in the same room and/or with the same equipment. So the impressions will be affected by their respective set up. But in general terms I would characterize MA on the warmer side - Devialet on the more detailed/analytical side. And Gryphon is in the middle between the two. All tree is great amps - its just a matter of taste and synergy with the other equipment you have. I went with the Diablo 300 and are still amazed at its ability to make me feel involved in the music. With the Gryphon in the set up I went from listening to music - to experiencing it.

I would agree with your observations, even though I have not heard any Nu-vista amps. I have heard their M series - slight warmth. Devialet does sound more analytic than the other two. Here is my take in terms of values. With Gryphon you're paying for build quality and long term investment. I don't think MF is in the same league in build quality. On top of this, both Dev and MF have higher turn over of models and they don't hold their values well.

Yes, the Diablo does put a smile on my face. Enough said.:D

imprezap2
09-18-2017, 05:06 AM
Soulution 511 is nice amp, about in the same league as the Diablo 300

Rick721
10-31-2017, 02:19 AM
This amp might be in a class of it's own! It doesn't get much better than this!

http://enjoythemusic.com/superioraudio/equipment/1116/Gryphon_Diablo_300_Integrated_Amplifier_Review.htm

GSOphile
10-31-2017, 09:13 AM
I've had my Diablo 300 for about a month now. Just the integrated, no DAC or phono. Using it to drive Magico S3 Mk IIs; mostly large scale classical and jazz. Wonderful bass, control, ease. Slightly warm, musical presentation, which I value. Unique design. Great amp - for me a long term keeper.

jdandy
10-31-2017, 12:27 PM
I could see the Gryphon Diablo 300 replacing my C2300 and MC452 in the living room system.


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doguniverse
10-31-2017, 01:38 PM
Go for it Dan! Of course I will be waiting for a review as well.

Rick721
11-01-2017, 10:22 PM
This 'AMP' is going to be very hard to beat!:yes:

http://i.nextmedia.com.au/Assets/Gryphon_Diablo_300_Audio_Esoeterica.pdf


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GreginNH1
11-05-2017, 02:09 PM
Go for it Dan! Of course I will be waiting for a review as well.


It would be toss up between which was better - the amp or Dan’s review. He writes as good or better than anyone in the industry IMO.

jdandy
11-05-2017, 02:17 PM
Greg.......Mighty nice of you to say. Thank you. . :tiphat:

Formerly YB-2
11-07-2017, 01:09 PM
I could see the Gryphon Diablo 300 replacing my C2300 and MC452 in the living room system.


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Beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that.................... is one of the ugliest pieces of gear I've seen. Looks like it should brew a cup of coffee or something like that.

Bar81
11-07-2017, 02:58 PM
Looks like it should brew a cup of coffee or something like that.

Never thought of that, but spot on LOL

Down Under
11-09-2017, 10:56 PM
Significantly better in the flesh.......

bigblue
11-10-2017, 05:25 PM
I must admit my Jeff Rowland Continuum S2 was easier on the eye. But once the Diablo was hooked up you can't be anything but floored. My God this is an amazing amp.

jdandy
01-11-2018, 02:03 PM
I am still fascinated with the Gryphon Diablo 300 integrated amplifier. It has been on my mind for quite some time. Still wondering how it would sound in place of the McIntosh C2300 and MC452 in my living room system.


https://www.audioexchange.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Gryphon-Diable-300-a.jpg

GreginNH1
01-11-2018, 02:40 PM
I am still fascinated with the Gryphon Diablo 300 integrated amplifier. It has been on my mind for quite some time. Still wondering how it would sound in place of the McIntosh C2300 and MC452 in my living room system.


https://www.audioexchange.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Gryphon-Diable-300-a.jpg

Only one way to find out! Too bad Ivan doesn't carry the line - the 300 would already be at this place!

bigblue
01-11-2018, 05:18 PM
I am still fascinated with the Gryphon Diablo 300 integrated amplifier. It has been on my mind for quite some time. Still wondering how it would sound in place of the McIntosh C2300 and MC452 in my living room system.


https://www.audioexchange.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Gryphon-Diable-300-a.jpg

A friend of mine has the same speakers as I do an he is using the 2300/452 combo and loves it. And I love my Diablo. I would say that the Gryphon could be the right choice if you want something that has a tighter and more agile sound than the Mac-set up. They are both very musical but to me Diablo delivers more speed and pace. Not to mention the grip it has on the membranes of the speakers. In my room it made me forget that I ever had a bass problem. It is no longer present. So the Dane is doing something with my Sonus Faber Amati, that my previous Jeff Rowland Contiuum S2 with 800 W couldn't.

trponhunter
01-11-2018, 08:18 PM
I would love to do a direct a to b comparison in the same room, at the same time on the same speakers with a Devialet 440 against this to see what happens.

bigblue
01-12-2018, 05:53 PM
At this level of equipment, my experience says it all comes down to taste. A Devialet could be the perfect choice if you like the way it interacts with your equipment, room and music taste. But IMO, it will bring a very different signature to the experience compared to the Mac or Gryphon.

trponhunter
01-13-2018, 10:55 AM
At this level of equipment, my experience says it all comes down to taste. A Devialet could be the perfect choice if you like the way it interacts with your equipment, room and music taste. But IMO, it will bring a very different signature to the experience compared to the Mac or Gryphon.


That is definitely a legitimate approach for many people, and I'm sure they are all really good units. However, on the very best minimally miked recordings, one of the units will be superior to the others in terms of information retrieval, resolution and ability to hear all the spatial cues of the original recording venue. If that holds true, then that unit would be "superior" to the others. That is the comparison I would like to see.

bigblue
01-13-2018, 08:12 PM
Information retrieval, resolution and ability to hear all the spatial cues are all great categories that many of us want our set up to ace.
But thats only part of the "puzzle". IMHO it don't automatically make ME fall in love with the music that reaches my ear. And to me that is the only thing that matters.

Of the three machines we are talking about here, to me the Devialet is the most detailed and could come across as slightly analytical in some set ups. The Mac is on the other side of the spectrum and the Gryphon somewhere in between.

sdepass
01-18-2018, 01:51 AM
I heard the 300 Diablo today for the first time driving some TAD-CRM not sure if the were MRK2's or not. I need that AMP to live.So good to listen to! The store had other Gryphon products but way out of my price range. They had T+A as well which i was interested in hearing as I want and end game intergrated amp, the Diablo is it!!!

wikeeboy
02-07-2018, 01:49 AM
Where did you listen to the Diablo?

bigblue
02-08-2018, 07:55 AM
I heard the 300 Diablo today...... I need that AMP to live.

I agree, that amp is seriously addictive. It seems to be able to add a nerve and a presence to the music that is habit-forming. Will be interesting to see how this love story unfolds :rock-on:

GreginNH1
05-31-2018, 06:34 PM
I only have twenty minutes on mine. It feels like Christmas morning!

jdandy
06-01-2018, 04:10 PM
Greg.......Oh, man. I didn't need to hear that.

bigblue
06-02-2018, 12:18 PM
I only have twenty minutes on mine. It feels like Christmas morning!

Congratulations, looking forward hearing your thoughts on the Gryphon as it unleashes its potential. :thumbsup:

For The Love of Music
06-02-2018, 01:53 PM
The Gryphon room at RMAF last year was impressive to me, clearly nice gear, Greg, keep us posted on your findings and maybe your last amp?

GreginNH1
06-02-2018, 03:02 PM
Congratulations, looking forward hearing your thoughts on the Gryphon as it unleashes its potential. :thumbsup:

Thanks bigblue. The Gryphon is getting better as the hours go on. It’s a very special piece of gear. :tresbon:

GreginNH1
06-02-2018, 03:03 PM
The Gryphon room at RMAF last year was impressive to me, clearly nice gear, Greg, keep us posted on your findings and maybe your last amp?


I hope it will be my last amp. I just told my wife the same thing and she just rolled her eyes. :D

crwilli
06-02-2018, 05:55 PM
I hope it will be my last amp. I just told my wife the same thing and she just rolled her eyes. :D



Yeah, that only works a few times.

By the third Amplifier/Speaker/PreAmp/SACD/TT/DAC/Sub purchase, they figure it out - Never has NO meaning to audiophiles.

jdandy
06-02-2018, 06:11 PM
Yeah, that only works a few times.
Never has NO meaning to audiophiles.

Craig.......Sorta like women saying this is my last expensive purse, shoes, jewelry, clothes, and high dollar makeup, not to mention those $150 to $200 trips to the hair salon multiple times a year. To listen to the ladies you'd think us audio enthusiasts were the only ones spending money on purely personal interests. Yeah, right!

crwilli
06-02-2018, 06:36 PM
Craig.......Sorta like women saying this is my last expensive purse, shoes, jewelry, clothes, and high dollar makeup, not to mention those $150 to $200 trips to the hair salon multiple times a year. To listen to the ladies you'd think us audio enthusiasts were the only ones spending money on purely personal interests. Yeah, right!



[emoji106] But at least in my case, none of those activities have any bearing on my audio purchases. She has told me “I no longer trust your “this is the last” comments”. Smart lady.

GreginNH1
06-02-2018, 07:18 PM
[emoji106] But at least in my case, none of those activities have any bearing on my audio purchases. She has told me “I no longer trust your “this is the last” comments”. Smart lady.

Thus far, my wife has not complained about any of my audio purchases (or other purchases for that matter). In fact, just this morning, she caught me browsing at a vintage Porsche 930 Turbo on line and said “ you should get it - you work hard and you have always provided for the family, now it’s your turn”.

Obviously she’s a keeper!

crwilli
06-02-2018, 08:42 PM
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audioguy3107
06-02-2018, 09:41 PM
Thus far, my wife has not complained about any of my audio purchases (or other purchases for that matter). In fact, just this morning, she caught me browsing at a vintage Porsche 930 Turbo on line and said “ you should get it - you work hard and you have always provided for the family, now it’s your turn”.

Obviously she’s a keeper!

Man, Greg, that’s awesome. Keep her happy at all costs!

- Buck

ctsooner
06-29-2018, 12:18 PM
late to the party, but great thread. I'm not in the same ball park as most of you, but I'm seriously considering the 300. I need to take a trip down to Sarasota to see family and go listen at Suncoast. Any more thoughts Greg?

GreginNH1
07-02-2018, 08:08 PM
late to the party, but great thread. I'm not in the same ball park as most of you, but I'm seriously considering the 300. I need to take a trip down to Sarasota to see family and go listen at Suncoast. Any more thoughts Greg?

I have been occupied with other distractions. It’s been a while since I listened to my rig. I’ll try to post some more updates over the next few weeks.

aardvarkbark
07-03-2018, 01:51 PM
I hope it will be my last amp. I just told my wife the same thing and she just rolled her eyes. :D

Please do tell your bride that fwiw, everyone on this board who reads this post rolls their eyes at the end of the first sentence.

I wanted to consider the 300 when I decided I needed more power than the AX-5 Twenty in my main system, but at that time, they had pulled out of the US market (though they maintained their service center here). With Vitus' introduction of the RI-101, I'd have to consider both of these were I to change or upgrade a non-primary system.

I'll be interested in hearing your thoughts. While it was unavailable here in US, it sure garnered seemingly universal high praise in EU and AU.

bigblue
07-03-2018, 03:00 PM
I hope you get the chance to listen to both of them. I have not heard the new Vitus, but I am confident it is a great performer. But then again that also goes for my Diablo 300. As always on this level - it is down to individual taste and matching the rest of the equipment.

caglarborklu
09-14-2018, 03:49 AM
Any recommedation for the Power Cord for Diablo 300..

thanks;

GreginNH1
09-15-2018, 07:52 AM
Any recommedation for the Power Cord for Diablo 300..

thanks;

I am using a Wireworld Silver Electra 7 power cord. I also have used Audioquest Hurricane (which made more of an impact on my source components).

bigblue
09-17-2018, 09:23 AM
I went straight to a Nordost Valhalla. Just to keep all cables in the set up the same. So I can not provide any comparisons on the impact on a high end cable vs the standard one that comes with the amp. But over the years I have done enough A - B testings to know there is a difference to be had.

Kobol
10-08-2018, 11:35 AM
I've heard the Diablo 300 with a few power cords, Wireworld Silver Electra7 is a good match and value for money, but with Jorma Origo it shines.

ctsooner
11-05-2018, 10:54 AM
The new Audioquest Dragon cord is very very special. The Elrod and Enklein should also be on your list to audition.

Blackbeird 2
11-06-2018, 05:42 PM
I just order my diablo 300 without dac/module, i want to know it will be a good match with wilson audio sabrina?i have denafrips terminator top of the line dac in denafrips im not sure it will be better than diablo dac module?and im using aurender n10 player

Im using audioquest hurricane power cord it will be good with the300?

I hope i can git some answers or somebody allready try somthing i have it will be great to know !!

Last thing if somthing will be better than wilson sabrina (with diablo 300)wich speaker is that and how big will the differance??!! ...thanks..

bart
11-06-2018, 06:10 PM
Blackbeird 2, welcome to AudioAficionado!

GSOphile
11-06-2018, 06:48 PM
I just order my diablo 300 without dac/module, i want to know it will be a good match with wilson audio sabrina?i have denafrips terminator top of the line dac in denafrips im not sure it will be better than diablo dac module?and im using aurender n10 player

Im using audioquest hurricane power cord it will be good with the300?

I hope i can git some answers or somebody allready try somthing i have it will be great to know !!

Last thing if somthing will be better than wilson sabrina (with diablo 300)wich speaker is that and how big will the differance??!! ...thanks..

I use Hurricanes with my 300 and am very happy with both. Speakers are Magico S3 MkIIs so no experience with Sabrinas.

bigblue
11-07-2018, 03:13 AM
I think you will be as happy with the Diablo 300 as I am.
To better help you with advice on gear it would be helpful to know what you define as better.
What are you liking/missing with Sabrina? What is the rest of your set up consisting of?
How do you define better? Is it more air, more bass, treble, 3D.....?
I like Wilson but I love Sonus Faber. There is no right or wrong. Just different voices. Go out to hifi friends and stores to find which one best suits your ears and budget.