CJ rumors...

[ronenash]

I just heard some information from a reliable source that CJ is discontinuing the ET-250s. I also got confirmation that CJ will be coming out with a stereo version of the ART power amp in a few month. Should be the same chassis but in stereo version (Premier 140 like). No information on the pricing of the new amp.

[TommyC]

CJ should do a tube integrated amp or "control" amp.

[Myles B. Astor]

I just heard some information from a reliable source that CJ is discontinuing the ET-250s. I also got confirmation that CJ will be coming out with a stereo version of the ART power amp in a few month. Should be the same chassis but in stereo version (Premier 140 like). No information on the pricing of the new amp.

Yes, it will be called the ARTsa and is 140 wpc. Same circuit of the ART save that the 8080 of the ART is replaced with a 6189 in the sa edition to accomodate two channels. Price is $18,500. Should be available in Feb.

[Joe Appierto]

Yes, it will be called the ARTsa and is 140 wpc. Same circuit of the ART save that the 8080 of the ART is replaced with a 6189 in the sa edition to accomodate two channels. Price is $18,500. Should be available in Feb.

Interesting that they're using a 6189 which I believe is a mil-spec 12AU7 in the design rather than a 6922. I wonder if it has anything to do with the reports we see in this forum concerning the longevity of the ElectroHarmonix 6922 tubes in some current production models?

I guess it could be simply a matter of economics with c-j getting a particularly sweet deal on a large number of the 6189 type, but I somehow doubt that. :scratch2:

[Coppy]

I just heard some information from a reliable source that CJ is discontinuing the ET-250s. I also got confirmation that CJ will be coming out with a stereo version of the ART power amp in a few month. Should be the same chassis but in stereo version (Premier 140 like). No information on the pricing of the new amp.

Miles is correct... see my post of 1/7..




Coppy
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Just got an e-mail... CJD will be at CES in Vegas this month with the new single chassis ARTsa. 140 wpc. Retail is $18,500. You can order in February.

Who will be the first?

Bob

[domj]

Seems like a huge price jump for guys who wanna move up from e lpm125s. Almost double e price.

[ronenash]

Seems like a huge price jump for guys who wanna move up from e lpm125s. Almost double e price.

I think the LP125m SE cost $13,500 in the US. Its more like 40% above the LP125 price.

[Coppy]

I think the LP125m SE cost $13,500 in the US. Its more like 40% above the LP125 price.

Ron,

The LP 125M SE is $12,500 US For the pair on the current price sheet. The LP125M is $10,000.

Bob

[ronenash]

Thanks for the correction.

[Coppy]

Thanks for the correction.

Not a correction... merely an update.

Enjoy the music.

Bob

[joeinid]

Is it too late to order an ET250S and is it something to consider before they are really gone? :(

[jimtranr]

Is it too late to order an ET250S and is it something to consider before they are really gone? :(

They're still available at Spearit Sound, Joe.

[Rafale]

Joe ....PM sent

[joeinid]

Any idea if they are getting out of solid state or hybrid altogether and just focusing on tube gear or do we think something else is in the works for ss/hybrid amps? So sad :(

[Puma Cat]

I don't think you will ever be able to predict where they will go design-wise.

The only trend I see is that they are notably increasing the prices of their SOTA models.

[Puma Cat]

Is it too late to order an ET250S and is it something to consider before they are really gone? :(

There's been one on Audiogon for about two months for $5200.00

[joeinid]

Thanks Jim and Stephen. I'm thinking out loud. Howard loves his new to him CA200 and I hope CJ doesn't do away with solid state gear.

[ronenash]

From what I heard CJ are percieved as a tube amplification company. Although to my ears their SS ventures have been some of the best amplifier available they were not a commercial success.
I too hope they will not give up on SS. Maybe by revamping their McCormack line with new offerings in the spirit of the P350 and CA200.

[Puma Cat]

What's interesting about this is that there has been a definite trend for C-J becoming a hybrid amplification company, with the enhanced triode line of products, the ET250S, and the ET series of preamps are actually all hybrid, with a triode tube input amplification stage, but MOSFET-based buffer output amplification stages to achieve as low an output impedance as possible. In this respect, they depart from the all tube-based composite triode designs that the ART/ACT/CT and latter Premier series utilized, again to lower output impedance.

[CDLehner]

From what I heard CJ are percieved as a tube amplification company. Although to my ears their SS ventures have been some of the best amplifier available they were not a commercial success.
I too hope they will not give up on SS. Maybe by revamping their McCormack line with new offerings in the spirit of the P350 and CA200.

I'm a C-J noobie, but I have to say that I think the McCormack line is a very good value. I think it would be a really interesting idea if C-J went all-tube under its badge, and embraced the Mickie-C line...not as inferior to C-J, but rather just it's SS division so to speak.

[ronenash]

Its true their latest preamps are all hybrid. BTW, my Sonic Frontier SFL-1 used this approach 20 years ago although the execution it not to the same level as CJ. Anyway, with the preamps its not as obvious to buyers that it a hybrid design. Its more an internal thing. The only percieved change is that the ET3 and ET5 don't wear their tube on the outside but rather its hiden under the hood. I guess this is because a single tube does not creat much of a visual effect.

[Puma Cat]

I'm a C-J noobie, but I have to say that I think the McCormack line is a very good value. I think it would be a really interesting idea if C-J went all-tube under its badge, and embraced the Mickie-C line...not as inferior to C-J, but rather just it's SS division so to speak.

I don't think C-J will ever box itself into a specific paradigm, tube, SS, or hybrid. I think they will do whatever they think sounds best.

[Myles B. Astor]

I don't think C-J will ever box itself into a specific paradigm, tube, SS, or hybrid. I think they will do whatever they think sounds best.

Yes, and five or ten years ago, they were experimenting even with a single-ended tube design. Wonder though what ever became of that GAT amplifier? :)