Thinking of running naked without subs (Music only) with the Sonus Faber Elipsa speakers. (2 Channel, driven by 501's)
Mistake???
I know Ivans opinion on this....

I own a few JL's I could move around but look forward to a smooth fluid sound.


Finishing my beach house soon, and will shopping for a good deal new or used.

Good deal being the motivator. Had a hold its own financial year, which is better then a crap year. (Previous)

Good times..

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McIntosh 501's, Sonus Faber Elipsa speakers,McIntosh LS 360's Full Surround Speakers in Home Theater. (2) MR85, MCD201, C46 Pre, (2) JL F113 Fathom Subs, (1) JL F112, MA2275 Int Amp, Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor Speakers, Project Turntable. Blackbird Cart, Clearaudio Concept table, MC, Oppo 95 120 inch screen and an Epson 1080UB Projector. Nothing better then Pipes/Cigars, and a Great movie with the JL subs Pounding. MAC1700 Receiver and ML-1C speakers

I recently heard Elipsas' with MC2301's/C500T combo and IMO, a sub would not be the 1st item I bought nor had as a #1 on my upgrade list after their purchase. Even though their range is 35Hz to 30Khz -- they seemed to me, in a very well dampened room to go lower -- therefore, a sub, IMO would not be priority 1.

I could be happy with them out of the box like they are (w/o sub).

Bob

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Amps: MC2301 tube mono's/dedicated 20A breakers.
Preamp: C500C/C500T
Digital Source: MCD1100 CD/SACD
Analogue Sources: SME 20/2 w/SME V arm and Palo Santos Presentation Cartridge & Akai GX-400D Reel-to-Reel w/relapped heads by JRF Magnetic Sciences.
Vibration Control: Nordost "TC" Sort Kones under CD/SACD & C500 and "AC" under amps. Shakti stones on amps.
Speakers: Sonus Faber Stradivari
Power Isolation: Isoclean PT-3030G III 3KVA Isolation Transformer w/Isoclean Super Focus In/Out Cables.
Power Bar: Isoclean ICP 206 Non-Filtered Power Bar.
Power Cables: Wireworld Platinum Electra on amps, preamp, CD/SACD.
Power Outlets: Isoclean ICP-003 Power Wall Socket.
Speaker Cables: Wireworld Platinum Eclipse
Signal Cables: WireWorld Platinum Eclipse XLR's on MCD500 & C500T to MC2301's.
Headphones: Sennheiser HD-650's and Koss Pro IV AA.
Tube Test Gear: Mint late '60's/calibrated Heathkit TT-1A & current SOTA MaxiMatcher tube test sets.

KingRT.......Say it isn't so.

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Dan


Living Room System: McIntosh C2300, MC601 (2), MCD1100, MS750, MR85, Sony DAT 60ES, Nakamichi BX-300, Micro Seiki DD-40, Ortofon 2M Black, Sonos ZP90, Oppo BDP-83SE Blu-ray, PMC EB1i, Fathom f113 w/ Sound Anchor stand, Power Plant Premier (2), PS Audio Soloist Premier SE (3), Rollerblock Jr.'s, Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's & PC's, Kimber 8TC with WBT Solid Silver Angled Locking Banana Connectors.
Studio System: McIntosh C1000C/P, MC2301 (2), MCD1100, MR88, Michell Gyro SE w/SME 309/Ortofon Cadenza Black, Sonos ZP90, PS Audio Power Plant Premier, PS Audio Soloist Premier SE, Sonus Faber Amati Anniversario, Rollerblock Jr.'s, Wireword Silver Eclipse IC's & PC's, Wireworld Silver Eclipse speaker cable.
Studio Home Theater System: McIntosh MX120, MC452, Oppo BDP-95 Blu-ray, PS Audio Soloist Premier SE, JBL LSR-6332 (2), JBL LSR-6328P (3), McIntosh XLS112 (2), Sony 52XBR9, Tributaries Silver IC's, Wireworld PC's.
Vintage: McIntosh MA5100, MR74 tuner, JVC XL-Z1050 K2 CD player, Wyred 4 Sound DAC2, Tandberg 3008A and 3026A, JBL4312A , McIntosh 4300V for deck speakers.

I would not use a sub with the Elipsas. Keep things simple imho at least initially

I don't use a sub with mine, they are powered by 1.2KWs.

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Indeed, if facts were available, then faith is not required, so in a sense, faith can be based on the absence of evidence-a fiction.

I initially had a f112 with my Elipsa's and found they sound better without the sub. I moved the Jlf112 to my home theater and then added a second jlf112 to the home theater which my magnepans needed. The Elipsa's are capable of putting out great sound and in my room no sub is needed.

No subs on the Elipsa's, you will be amazed at what they are capable of and they sound great with Mcintosh. Your welcome to swing by if your in Miami, you'll leave impressed.

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After just having heard Ivan's Strads, which are in a relatively small room, with 2 JL subs my vote is to include the subs. Would the Stads have sounded good without them, yes; however, with them they sounded GREAT! I've got to believe that the same would hold true for the Elipsa's.

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Dennis

MX119, MC501 (2), MC207, MCD500, MS750
Pioneer BDP-95FD
ML Ascents, Theater, Fresco, Descent

FWIW, since I have no experience with the Elipsa's, I would start with no subs. From what I've read, the Elipsa's seem to be able to cover the musical spectrum quite well on their own. I would spend the sub money, if at all, on digital room correction of some kind.

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Kevin

14 X 20 small??

Just curious to the post -- did you happen to hear the SF's w/o 1 and then w/o the 2d sub?

Bob

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Amps: MC2301 tube mono's/dedicated 20A breakers.
Preamp: C500C/C500T
Digital Source: MCD1100 CD/SACD
Analogue Sources: SME 20/2 w/SME V arm and Palo Santos Presentation Cartridge & Akai GX-400D Reel-to-Reel w/relapped heads by JRF Magnetic Sciences.
Vibration Control: Nordost "TC" Sort Kones under CD/SACD & C500 and "AC" under amps. Shakti stones on amps.
Speakers: Sonus Faber Stradivari
Power Isolation: Isoclean PT-3030G III 3KVA Isolation Transformer w/Isoclean Super Focus In/Out Cables.
Power Bar: Isoclean ICP 206 Non-Filtered Power Bar.
Power Cables: Wireworld Platinum Electra on amps, preamp, CD/SACD.
Power Outlets: Isoclean ICP-003 Power Wall Socket.
Speaker Cables: Wireworld Platinum Eclipse
Signal Cables: WireWorld Platinum Eclipse XLR's on MCD500 & C500T to MC2301's.
Headphones: Sennheiser HD-650's and Koss Pro IV AA.
Tube Test Gear: Mint late '60's/calibrated Heathkit TT-1A & current SOTA MaxiMatcher tube test sets.