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Old 02-13-2010, 08:48 PM
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I know where there are a MINT pair of EB1i's for sale, say the word and they'll be headed to Jasper by 5pm today...
are you selling yours already?
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Old 02-13-2010, 08:57 PM
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Rob.......I'm thinking his PMC EB1i's might not be efficient enough for Stephen's Class A bliss.
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Old 02-14-2010, 12:46 AM
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Yes, sadly the fabulous PMC EB1i's are for sale.

If it not for moving to a much smaller place I would have gladly kept the PMC as my last speaker forever. They just do everything very well. Seriously the best speaker that I have lived with.

I hope to post some photos of my new listening space tomorrow... it gives new meaning to "near field".

The new low powered SET amp and efficient speakers are giving me great sound in my little room.

I look forward to the day when I will have the room and the living stability to have a 501/C500/PMC system again.

You CANNOT go wrong with PMC speakers
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Old 03-18-2010, 12:48 PM
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Stephen,
now that I spent some time with the EB1i, and having the experience of 8 different pairs of speakers in 10 years, I 'm now convinced that the perfect speakers do not exist.
Perfection is not reachable by men, for anything.
When we get a new pair of speakers, we all think it will be the last one. With time, we realize the sound could be more of this and less of that....
I have listened to many expensive speakers. All of them had some kind of shortcomings. I know that I could find better speakers than mine for some aspects but they will be less good on other points.
Maybe that at 150000 euros
I could find a 'near perfect' speaker but i will never spend that kind of money.
The PMC EB1i are far from being perfect. They don't do everything.
But as long as they will give me the will to listen to more and more music, they will be here to stay.
The only still affordable speakers I could think of that could replace them are very big JBL and Tannoy Prestige ones...
Cheers,
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Old 03-18-2010, 05:15 PM
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I have to chime in here. I may be the primary reason why many folks here at AA have taken an interest in the PMC EB1i speakers. I believe I was the first in our group to embrace the PMC EB1i's, and I have come to believe they are the best sounding speakers on the market under $20k, period. Of course, that is just my humble opinion.

I have owned big JBL's, big Altec's, B&W, Definative Technology, Sonus Faber, and many other speakers over the past 43 years in this amazing hobby. I have auditioned many, many manufacturer's speakers at audio showrooms all over the United States, in all price ranges, including many stat panel speakers. I have had the pleasure to sit for hours with several friend's systems that include big B&W's, Focal, and McIntosh speakers. When I experienced the PMC EB1i speakers I was completely mesmerized by their overall tonal balance from bottom to top, as well as their effortless dynamics, clarity, and power handling capabilities. I have owned, and lived with the PMC EBi1's for a year and a half, and still find myself thoroughly immersed in audio pleasure each time the music flows. They do so many things right.

I have read the comments on their lack of some exotic shape, or unique cabinet design, but let me tell you they produce music oh so well. I find their fit and finsh to be very attractive. Obviously I am a happy, and biased owner. Were it not for all my years in this hobby, and exposure to a plethora of different speakers through these years, I might be considered narrow minded in my judgement, but my long history affords me the experience and ability to determine good sound when I hear it.

I am not trying to say my PMC EB1i's are the best speakers in the world, or that they are perfect. Like Jerome, I understand perfect is more a concept of man's imagination than reality. Still, the PMC EB1i speakers are a tremendous value, and sound far more expensive than thier price point.

The bottom line ultimately comes down to the subjectivity of sound. We all hear differently. The brain chemistry generated by the excitement of the auditiory nerves will never be the same for any two individuals. Such is life, and this alone provides the foundation for the huge selection of speakers we have to chose from. I love this hobby.
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Studio System: McIntosh C1000C/P, MC2301 (2), MCD1100, MR88, Michell Gyro SE w/SME 309/Ortofon Cadenza Black, Sonos ZP90, PS Audio Power Plant Premier, PS Audio Soloist Premier SE, Sonus Faber Amati Anniversario, Rollerblock Jr.'s, Wireword Silver Eclipse IC's & PC's, Wireworld Silver Eclipse speaker cable.
Studio Home Theater System: McIntosh MX120, MC452, Oppo BDP-95 Blu-ray, PS Audio Soloist Premier SE, JBL LSR-6332 (2), JBL LSR-6328P (3), McIntosh XLS112 (2), Sony 52XBR9, Tributaries Silver IC's, Wireworld PC's.
Vintage: McIntosh MA5100, MR74 tuner, JVC XL-Z1050 K2 CD player, Wyred 4 Sound DAC2, Tandberg 3008A and 3026A, JBL4312A , McIntosh 4300V for deck speakers.

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Old 03-18-2010, 09:39 PM
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I look forward to the day when I will have the room and the living stability to have a 501/C500/PMC system again.
Just about as good as it gets!
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Old 03-18-2010, 10:28 PM
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I am not trying to say my PMC EB1i's are the best speakers in the world, or that they are perfect. Like Jerome, I understand perfect is more a concept of man's imagination than reality.
Here is an interesting point of view from Dave Wilson.

YouTube - Conversations, Part II
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Old 03-18-2010, 10:51 PM
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Serge.......Thanks for the link. Dave Wilson is an articulate, and passionate speaker designer who clearly has a firm grasp of the limiting factors in speaker designs. It is so true......no perfect speaker, no perfect microphone, no perfect wire, no perfect recording.

It is still a ton of fun. Joy and satisfaction are extremely individual emotions. All I know is I am still going strong in my fascination with audio reproduction. A fair chunk of my discretionary income has helped support any number of audio equipment and speaker manufacturers. Every step has been a learning experience that I would not trade back for the money.
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Living Room System: McIntosh C2300, MC601 (2), MCD1100, MS750, MR85, Sony DAT 60ES, Nakamichi BX-300, Micro Seiki DD-40, Ortofon 2M Black, Sonos ZP90, Oppo BDP-83SE Blu-ray, PMC EB1i, Fathom f113 w/ Sound Anchor stand, Power Plant Premier (2), PS Audio Soloist Premier SE (3), Rollerblock Jr.'s, Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's & PC's, Kimber 8TC with WBT Solid Silver Angled Locking Banana Connectors.
Studio System: McIntosh C1000C/P, MC2301 (2), MCD1100, MR88, Michell Gyro SE w/SME 309/Ortofon Cadenza Black, Sonos ZP90, PS Audio Power Plant Premier, PS Audio Soloist Premier SE, Sonus Faber Amati Anniversario, Rollerblock Jr.'s, Wireword Silver Eclipse IC's & PC's, Wireworld Silver Eclipse speaker cable.
Studio Home Theater System: McIntosh MX120, MC452, Oppo BDP-95 Blu-ray, PS Audio Soloist Premier SE, JBL LSR-6332 (2), JBL LSR-6328P (3), McIntosh XLS112 (2), Sony 52XBR9, Tributaries Silver IC's, Wireworld PC's.
Vintage: McIntosh MA5100, MR74 tuner, JVC XL-Z1050 K2 CD player, Wyred 4 Sound DAC2, Tandberg 3008A and 3026A, JBL4312A , McIntosh 4300V for deck speakers.
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Old 03-19-2010, 03:50 AM
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I have to chime in here. I may be the primary reason why many folks here at AA have taken an interest in the PMC EB1i speakers. I believe I was the first in our group to embrace the PMC EB1i's, and I have come to believe they are the best sounding speakers on the market under $20k, period. Of course, that is just my humble opinion.

I have owned big JBL's, big Altec's, B&W, Definative Technology, Sonus Faber, and many other speakers over the past 43 years in this amazing hobby. I have auditioned many, many manufacturer's speakers at audio showrooms all over the United States, in all price ranges, including many stat panel speakers. I have had the pleasure to sit for hours with several friend's systems that include big B&W's, Focal, and McIntosh speakers. When I experienced the PMC EB1i speakers I was completely mesmerized by their overall tonal balance from bottom to top, as well as their effortless dynamics, clarity, and power handling capabilities. I have owned, and lived with the PMC EBi1's for a year and a half, and still find myself thoroughly immersed in audio pleasure each time the music flows. They do so many things right.

I have read the comments on their lack of some exotic shape, or unique cabinet design, but let me tell you they produce music oh so well. I find their fit and finsh to be very attractive. Obviously I am a happy, and biased owner. Were it not for all my years in this hobby, and exposure to a plethora of different speakers through these years, I might be considered narrow minded in my judgement, but my long history affords me the experience and ability to determine good sound when I hear it.

I am not trying to say my PMC EB1i's are the best speakers in the world, or that they are perfect. Like Jerome, I understand perfect is more a concept of man's imagination than reality. Still, the PMC EB1i speakers are a tremendous value, and sound far more expensive than thier price point.

The bottom line ultimately comes down to the subjectivity of sound. We all hear differently. The brain chemistry generated by the excitement of the auditiory nerves will never be the same for any two individuals. Such is life, and this alone provides the foundation for the huge selection of speakers we have to chose from. I love this hobby.
Very well said Dan !
And once again I thank you very much for the inspiration you gave me to go to listen to the EB1i.
They are truly amazing speakers.
And they actually gave me the will, for the first time, to stop looking for ( and I mean buying ) new speakers for my main system.
I'm still looking at some speakers which I'm interested in, but just with curiosity ( Wilson Sasha, JBL Everest, Tannoy Westminster.....) and not with the will to buy anything...

Cheers,
Jerome
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Sorry to high-jack this thread, but i am unable to create a new thread.

My dealer has suggested wiring my EB1i's with XLO Signature 3's bi-wired.

Has any body tried this cable.

Any other suggestions. I am attached to Bryston 7b-SSt2's
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