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Old 04-09-2012, 06:14 PM
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I do prefer the Pentatone recordings - and I have all four. I think Egarr embellishes the organ too much, plays too loud, and overpowers the accompanying musicians.

Think the Chorzempa/Schroder releases are more balanced (and more beautiful) Downside of those SACD's is mechanical noise from the ancient tracker organ mechanism.
We are not the same on this. But that's what music is all about. One person's gem is another's turd.

I like the balance of the organ on the Egarr recordings. I think it's just right. Not too laid back, not overpowering, but spirited. The whole group gels really well. And I love the use of the lute and baroque guitar continuo.

As for the embellishments, I like them. Handel knew of the French style of embellishment and would likely have employed it. You can hear similar style on Kenneth Gilbert's Harmonia Mundi recordings of Handel's Grand Suites for Harpsichord (highly recommended, BTW). His student, Scott Ross, really had great mastery of that (his STIL recording of Rameau's keyboard music is amazing) Anyway, I think liberal embellishment works well with Handel's music.

With that said, I do like the Chorzempa recordings. I have the first volume, and will get the other three sometime.
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Old 04-09-2012, 06:16 PM
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I don't know if I agree with your preference, partly because you are comparing very different symphonies, but I do appreciate the parallel between Fischer and Dorati, both passionate Hungarians. Note that Dorati recorded very little Mahler and that Fischer will only be recording those he wants to. Also, there are other Mahler conductors who are much more visceral than MTT and, especially, Inbal. Try the Bernstein/VPO Mahler 6, for example.
Am going to look to earlier Mahler recordings to see what the greats have to say on these works... was looking first to Bruno Walter but will definitely check out Bernstein now as well thanks Kal... the advice is helping a lot and Mahler is proving a rich and rewarding territory to be travelling through.

As a happy aside I downloaded the hi-res version of Mahler 6 from Channel Classics... the final movement of The Tragic symphony proved true to name being 33 minutes long at 24/176khz it was nearly a GB in size and crashed my system whenever I tried to play it...I run Puremusic in memory mode and think the file size must be the issue as the program closes down when tryng to load the final movement as a FLAC... this never would have happened in Mahler's day.

The happy part is that when I originally thought that there might have been a corrupt file on the server I emailed Channel Classics just asking them what they thought might be the issue... to my complete surprise I got an email back from Jared Sacks (chief audio engineer and owner of Channel Classics I believe) on Good Friday morning offering suggestions on how to re download and how to fix things... just really great support ... nothing Tragic about this.

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Old 04-09-2012, 06:33 PM
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Catching up and reading the posts here from the Easter weekend (9 pages!) while listening to one of my favourites:



I've posted this before.
Great piano music.
We went through the 2 discs in one go!
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Old 04-09-2012, 06:43 PM
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With all this talk of Handel and embellishments, I had to break out my great Kenneth Gilbert album of the Handel keyboard suites. I have a lot of harpsichord music, and this is without question in the top five or ten of my favorites.

G. F. Händel, "Les Grandes Suites Pour Clavecin"
Kenneth Gilbert, harpsichord
Harmonia Mundi HM 447 (2 LP)

The linked CD does not have all 8 suites, but the album does.
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I run Puremusic in memory mode and think the file size must be the issue as the program closes down when tryng to load the final movement as a FLAC... this never would have happened in Mahler's day.
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Listening to . . . . Vivaldi - Concerti Con Titoli

I Musici

Concerti Con Titoli translated means "Concerts with Titles" rather than just an opus number, I suppose. But these are beautiful concertos, mostly violin and flute based and well played by I Musici. This set is missing any descriptive literature and other than listen and enjoy, I'm not sure what their provenance might be.

A Philips LP two record box set - Philips Records R 215021 (1957, 1958, 1962, 1966, 1968)

Side 1: Concerti fur Violine, Streicher und Continuo
Concerto e-moll, Op. 11, 2 RV 277 (PV 106) "Il favorito"
Concerto E-dur RV 270 (PV 248) "Il riposo"
Concerto e-moll RV 199 (PV 419) "Il sospetto"


Side 2:
Concerto c-moll, RV 199 (cont.)
Concerto D-dur RV 234 (PV 208) "L'inquietudine"
Concerto E-dur, RV 271 (PV 246) "L'amoroso"


Side 3: Concerti Op. 10 fur Flote, Streicher und Continuo
Concerto No. 1 F-dur, RV 433 (PV 261)
Concerto No. 2 g-moll, RV 439 (PV 342)
Concerto No. 3 D-dur, RV 428 (PV 155)


Side 4: Il cimento dell'armonia e dell'invenzione, Op. 8
Concerto No. 10 B-dur, RV 362 (PV 338)
Concerto A-dur, RV 552 (PV 222)


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Think the Chorzempa/Schroder releases are more balanced (and more beautiful) Downside of those SACD's is mechanical noise from the ancient tracker organ mechanism.
Downside? It is part of the charm of the instrument.
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Downside? It is part of the charm of the instrument.
Agreed! I love the sound of that historic organ.
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Agreed! I love the sound of that historic organ.
Yes, all the noisy parts are part and parcel of the charm.

I have a recording of AoAM doing Gluck's "Dance of the Furies" from Orfeo. It's wondering to hear all the keys clacking away on the woodwinds when the orchestra is running at wide open throttle.
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This "not available in the states until 2013" disc just arrived in today's post after a wee bit of a journey. Perhaps the best recording I've heard to date of these wonderful divertimenti. Naxos can be horrendously uneven in their productions - but this one is fantastic. Rich, full, airy, and a great sense of presence... I will even use the word "palpable"... there - I used it

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