They both buy DAC's from the same company, they both might even buy drives from the same company, that still doesn't make them the same product. The McIntosh does have balanced outputs, and looks a lot better.

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AMP's: D'Agostino Momentum's
Pre Amp: Mcintosh C-1000 & C-1000P
Sources: McIntosh MCD-1100 & MS-300, Olive 4HD, SonoS, Pro-Ject 6 PerspeX
Speakers: MBL 111F
Cables: Transparent Ultra MM2 & Reference MM2 & Powerlink MM2x

It's not an Oppo, it's a Denon DVD-A1UDCI.

J/K.

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Preamps/tuners:McIntosh C50, C46, MR88, MR73, C2200, C22ce, Cary SPL-98L
Integrate amps:McIntosh MA6100, Denon PMA2000ivr
Amps: McIntosh Mc602, Mc2000, Mc275 MK-V, Cary 805ae mono blocks.
Speakers: JMLab Mezzo Utopia, Focal Twin6 BE, Tannoy Mini Autograph
Headphones: Sennheiser HD800, Beyer T1, Denon D7000, Grado RS1i, Sony MDR-SA5000, MDR-Z1000, AKG K701, and many many more
Digital Sources:Sony SCD-1 & SCD777es, CDP-XA7es, 2010 Mac Mini Music Server, Amarra Mini player, Musical Fidelity V-Link & M1 DAC, Apogee Mini-DAC & Duet 2

I think there's truth in that. They're very similar, right down the exact placement of the SD card slot on the front. Now don't be hatin', I'm just making an observation.

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McIntosh MC501(x2), MC205, MCD500: Denon AVP-A1HDCI: JL Audio Fathom f113(x2) PS Audio PPP(x2) Martin Logan Prodigy(Mains), Theater(Center),4 Scripts(Sides & rears): JVC DLA-HD950 Projector: Stewart Firehawk G3: Oppo BDP-93: Wireworld Silver Eclipse Speaker Cable

In a year or two the MVP881 price may drop to around $2100 like the MVP871 is now, when the MVP891 player will be out. Such is life in the technology world. I have had a lot of pleasure listening to my MCD500 and when Mcintosh comes out with a 32 bit DAC MCD500 replacement or MDA replacement someone will be able to pick up the MCD500 for a great price.

No hold on i take that back..... what if that MCintosh was an oppo placed in a Lexicon placed in a Mcintosh, with holes cut away at the bottom to see the venting of the oppo.

Well to be fair, the MVP871 has been around for a few years and those who bought it when new had enjoyed it. You can always wait and wait and wait for the the price to drop, but those who bought it are enjoying theirs while you wait.

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~Your pet is your best investment~

Preamps/tuners:McIntosh C50, C46, MR88, MR73, C2200, C22ce, Cary SPL-98L
Integrate amps:McIntosh MA6100, Denon PMA2000ivr
Amps: McIntosh Mc602, Mc2000, Mc275 MK-V, Cary 805ae mono blocks.
Speakers: JMLab Mezzo Utopia, Focal Twin6 BE, Tannoy Mini Autograph
Headphones: Sennheiser HD800, Beyer T1, Denon D7000, Grado RS1i, Sony MDR-SA5000, MDR-Z1000, AKG K701, and many many more
Digital Sources:Sony SCD-1 & SCD777es, CDP-XA7es, 2010 Mac Mini Music Server, Amarra Mini player, Musical Fidelity V-Link & M1 DAC, Apogee Mini-DAC & Duet 2

I agree with your point about waiting. Looking forward to some day getting over to one of Ivan's home theater demo rooms

March is right around the corner, are you coming?

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McIntosh C2200, MC352, MR78, MS300, MC275, MVP871
PMC OB1 Speakers, JBL L56
Bryston BDA-1 DAC, Bryston 10B crossover, Bryston BDP-1
Rega P3-24 w/ TTPSU ,Ortofon 2M Black Cartridge, Groovetracer Reference Sub Platter,and upgraded Rega belt
JL Audio F112 Sub, Sony HD Tuner(modified)
PS Audio Soloist Premiers, Power Plant Premier, and Noise Harvesters, Alan Maher Design Filters
Aural Harmony, Black Mountain Interconnects, and Wireworld Speaker Cables, Symposium Roller Blocks, and Fat Padz, Custom made switch box.


Yesterday is history.... Tomorrow is a mystery.... Today is a gift.... That's why its called the present!

its not that I am waiting for the price to come down, its more is it worth spending 8g on a blue ray player, when I can get the 500, and use the marantz 7004? its like, how much better can the picture be? to the point is it worth 7g more?

then you get into the can a unvs. player play 2chnl better then a dedicated player?

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Well... shelf space can be at a premium... So an all in one player can free room for something else?