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Old 01-30-2013, 09:00 PM
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My dealer has a pair of the XR100s and I have listened to them several times on solid state, they sound wonderful. The other day I was hanging out with the dealer, showing him some new music and we decided to hook up one MC275 VI to the speakers....WOW, such beautiful sound! Very impressed with these speakers.
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:30 AM
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My dealer recently go in a pair of XR100 to demo against a pair of Focal Electra 1028 BE's. a good old duke out between the
American and the French, freedom fries anyone?

The XR100 have very nice fit and finish. The blond wood color is wonderful to these tired eyes. I like the narrow profile and the cute stack of miniature bass drivers on the bottom. The "spider eye" array of tweeters, mids and super tweeter is at best odd looking. This is one speaker which I think looks better with the grills on (IMHO).
The speaker sits on a four legged mount reminiscent of NHT 3.3 of yesteryear. Like the NHT's the XR100 packs quite a wallop in the bottom end. Those teacup sized bass drivers don't move much but work in harmony like a school of piranha dishing out the hurt on the bottom end. They seem to love high current solid state to move much more air than one would think they were capable of. Tubes sound nice on the bass but they are not in the same league as SS.

They provided a beautifully broad soundstage, large impact and played much bigger than they should for their smallish size.
I also enjoyed the McIntosh logo perk on the bottom. Gimmicky yes, not quite grotesque.


WARNING: if you really like these speakers and wish to avoid being exposed to criticism go to the next thread.

I am much less enamored with the mids and highs. The complicated crossover seems to rob the detail out of the speaker. Compared to the Focals there was three or four veils of detail missing. Individual instruments on small ensembles smeared together but classical music was gloriously presented with unabashed grandeur. If one listens to primarily classical here is your speaker. The Focals are much more intimate, nuanced and transparent. The Beryllium tweeter is in a different league altogether than the silk dome melee on the 100's.

I also must comment on the heft of the Mc speakers, or more precisely the lack of it. They seem less weighty and solid than the comparably priced Electras. From a company which could be accused of providing the most pounds per dollar of electronics the more delicate XR100's seem out of place.

Now certainly my opinion is just that. If someone likes or loves the XR100 I hope my peanut gallery opinion doesn't rob them of any joy. The XR100 are enjoyable and fun. I really appreciated their fast articulate bass. Perhaps this strength accentuated the speakers weaknesses only by comparison. Well that and the silver tongued French man.

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Old 01-31-2013, 12:41 AM
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It looks like it will need to be plugged into an AC outlet to get the back lighted logo to glow.


Just the power output from a McIntosh component.
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Old 01-31-2013, 01:03 AM
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My neighbor just purchased a pair of xr100's to go with his MC7000. I have only compared them to my B&W802's and the XR200's all in the same room. The XR100'S sound good right out of the box and he has just begun to get some hours on them. I have to say when we first hooked them up and hit the power button within a fews seconds I looked at Fred just as he smiled.
He had Martin Logans for years and was worried about the highs not being what he was used to. For me the ML's were tough to listen to for extended periods of time. His first song was the Streisand Broadway CD track 10 "Somewhere". Highs were very clear and airy. Sound stage was excellent, beyond the bounds of the speakers, and the bottom was great, so much so he didn't keep his sub. He is pleased and that is what counts. Directly comparing them to the XR200's IMHO there was a noticeable bigger and broader sound stage. The 200's had stronger bass with a little cabinet low end resonance but it didn't detract from the overall sound. They sound great at low levels that I find myself at when the house has gone to bed. Bottom line the sound of the XR100's to the 200's are much like having a very similar big brother.
I haven't been on the forum long and have never really talked about sound qualities. I find what I hear to be difficult to put into words. Maybe it will get easier.
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:35 PM
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I've compared the XR100 against the Focal Electra 1038.

Both are good speakers that deliver their philosophy towards good sound.

Personally, I think the Xr100 needs a lot of time of running in versus the XR200, and they sound very different, and the XR200 sounds much better, but XR50's quality is closer to XR100.

Focal 1038 Be is a great performer. Delivers lively sounds and is very spacious, and energetic compared to the XR100. But the XR100 is more linear and 'balanced'. The XR100 takes higher wattage better than the 1038, and is more consistent throughout a range of volumes played, without sounding strenuous. The 1038 excels in a given range of volume. It may seem a little bright when played at a higher volume. It also needs hundreds of hours of running in.

The 1038 will give you a superb first impression, and is a good speaker, in the sweet spot.
The XR100 will give you very balanced sound after running in that super high tweeter, and a better overall presentation within a room.
The on and off axis of the xr100 is more consistent, wider area of better tone.

Apologies for the unstructured writing. Rushing, but had to put this in before I go.
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I've compared the XR100 against the Focal Electra 1038.

Both are good speakers that deliver their philosophy towards good sound.........
I agree with all your points except that I find the Electra's better balanced. The Focals are more "hi-fi ish" then the XR 100. The Mc's sound better walking around the room compared to the Focals but in the sweet spot the Focals are superior.
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I agree with all your points except that I find the Electra's better balanced. The Focals are more "hi-fi ish" then the XR 100. The Mc's sound better walking around the room compared to the Focals but in the sweet spot the Focals are superior.
I would agree to disagree on the point of being balanced, and I do agree on your opinions on Focals being "hi-fi ish", and that "The Mc's sound better walking around the room compared to the Focals but in the sweet spot the Focals are superior."

Another point to add with the Xr100 is that the bass is more evenly distributed within the room, and the 1038s bass only sounds great in the sweet spot.

I think linearity comes with balance, and Xr100 certainly has that. On my mc601s, the 1038 does well up from 6 watts to 60 watts- and within that range, they sound "balanced", above that, it gets harsh, too soft, and the "hi-fi ish" "feel" disappears. The Xr100 bears the same character throughout the power range, soft and loud.

The Utopia range seems similar to the 1038 with regards to they way they handle power, optimum within a certain range. And the McINTOSH amplifiers mc452 and up, handles the bass very well, and compliments the mid and highs of the Focals.
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Obviously we are running competition for worst poster...

Yes it was the XR100's, if you saw the 1st pair they were Red Walnut but in our room they looked black, I bought them. There is another pair on display, you should give them a listen it's a real surprise especially on tubes.
I have some interesting design facts if anyone is interested.
Hi Audioi,
I saw in your picture that you are running these with two MC275. Are they V or VIs? Did you roll the tubes? Am curious what kind of music you are playing and do you ever play it fairly to pretty loud? At higher volumes does anything start to suffer, high, mid, or bass? Overall impression.
I have two MC275LE and thought I knew which speakers I wanted to pair with them but would really like to hear your impression since you are using the same amps I am using.
Thank you!
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Interesting thread. What is the list of the XR50, XR80, XR100?
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