This is not ment to start a war or anything. But am I correct to think that Marantz is a little higher end then Denon? I like them both, though I do tend to think Denon is getting a little to much like box store ish,

I was really looking into Denon for my pre/pro due to the great reviews, but when I took the time to listen to the marantz ( I always stayed away from marantz, I dont know why really, it might have been the black and gold look) I was really surprised on how nice the sound was.

so I know they are from the same D&M holdings, but what are their respective markets? Is it Denon Marantz then Mcintosh?

*Disclaimer*

The real market is what sounds the best to you.

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Mcintosh 501(x2) ~ c2300 ~ Mc 303 ~ Marantz 8003 and 7004BD ~ Esoteric DV-60 ~ JL Audio F110 (x 2) ~ Music Hall MMF (Benz silver cart) ~ Audience AU24 E Interconnects/Audio cables/ Power cords ~ Ricard Gray 400 Pro (x3) w/ kubala Power Cords ~Speakers Totem Wind Design-Model one signature Center-Dali Helicon W200 rears

I think that both are just about equal.

I think it was Hi Fi News that recently ran back to back reviews of the top of the line Multi format player from each. If I remember correctly they liked the Marantz better for 2-channel audio and the Denon better for multi channel and AV.

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AMP's: D'Agostino Momentum's
Pre Amp: Mcintosh C-1000 & C-1000P
Sources: McIntosh MCD-1100 & MS-300, Olive 4HD, SonoS, Pro-Ject 6 PerspeX
Speakers: MBL 111F
Cables: Transparent Ultra MM2 & Reference MM2 & Powerlink MM2x

So, HiFi News supports both advertisers......er, I mean products. Guess we should just buy one of each so we can be thrilled with the best of two channel and surround.

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Living Room System: McIntosh C2300, MC601 (2), MCD1100, MS750, MR85, Sony DAT 60ES, Nakamichi BX-300, Micro Seiki DD-40, Ortofon 2M Black, Sonos ZP90, Oppo BDP-83SE Blu-ray, PMC EB1i, Fathom f113 w/ Sound Anchor stand, Power Plant Premier (2), PS Audio Soloist Premier SE (3), Rollerblock Jr.'s, Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's & PC's, Kimber 8TC with WBT Solid Silver Angled Locking Banana Connectors.
Studio System: McIntosh C1000C/P, MC2301 (2), MCD1100, MR88, Michell Gyro SE w/SME 309/Ortofon Cadenza Black, Sonos ZP90, PS Audio Power Plant Premier, PS Audio Soloist Premier SE, Sonus Faber Amati Anniversario, Rollerblock Jr.'s, Wireword Silver Eclipse IC's & PC's, Wireworld Silver Eclipse speaker cable.
Studio Home Theater System: McIntosh MX120, MC452, Oppo BDP-95 Blu-ray, PS Audio Soloist Premier SE, JBL LSR-6332 (2), JBL LSR-6328P (3), McIntosh XLS112 (2), Sony 52XBR9, Tributaries Silver IC's, Wireworld PC's.
Vintage: McIntosh MA5100, MR74 tuner, JVC XL-Z1050 K2 CD player, Wyred 4 Sound DAC2, Tandberg 3008A and 3026A, JBL4312A , McIntosh 4300V for deck speakers.

I tend to agree with the notion that Marantz is a touch better than Denon. My first Denon product was purchased in 1994, the DP-45a turntable. what a great product. I also enjoy a Denon AV 3502 AV receiver that is 8 or 9 years old. It has also been a good product, but I am hoping to upgrade that unit to the Marantz 8003 receiver.

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Main System MC-275MKIV--C-2200--MS-300--MDA-1000--Klipschorns--Slim Devices Squeezebox Duet--PS Audio PPP--Sota Star Sapphire Turntable

the Marantz 8003 is a really nice unit. Really has great feats. But the best part is you dont have all the " forced logos" all over the front. Its really nice and clean. The mass market logos are on top of the unit, where it doesnt take away from the unit.

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Mcintosh 501(x2) ~ c2300 ~ Mc 303 ~ Marantz 8003 and 7004BD ~ Esoteric DV-60 ~ JL Audio F110 (x 2) ~ Music Hall MMF (Benz silver cart) ~ Audience AU24 E Interconnects/Audio cables/ Power cords ~ Ricard Gray 400 Pro (x3) w/ kubala Power Cords ~Speakers Totem Wind Design-Model one signature Center-Dali Helicon W200 rears

They are different. Denon usually always develops the tech and rolls it out. Marantz then takes what works after a year or so with Denon and applies it. Denon is good for detail and dynamics. Marantz is more smoother and usually an easier listen. Marantz do some solo projects though like their 9 monos and their UD9 blu ray. They both make good products.