Since two Gothams are out of the question, for money reasons as well as I trust Ivan's opinion that two 113's is preferred for 2 channel, what about a pair of the new 212?

There are some upgrades to this unit over the 113 according to this review. And check out his Conclusion page 4.

Stereophile: JL Audio Fathom f212 powered subwoofer

By the way, the inputs on the JL 212 don't look like any XLR I've ever seen. Do I need to change my cable ends if I go with JL?

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/image...rear-panel.jpg

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What I used to have... MCD/MDA1000, Pass Labs XVR1, 501x4, Magnepan 20.1,, JL 212 X 2, Equitech 3Q
- Long Live Two Channel -

Standard balanced cables will work with all JL products including the F212's.

BTW, you have a pm

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FLORIDA
MX136, C15, MC206, MC162(2) MC402, MC1.2KW(12) MC2KW(2) MQ109B, MR88, MS300(2) MCD301, MCD1100, MS750(2) MVP881, MCD1000, MDA1000, C1000C, C1000P/T, MPC1500, HT3F(2) WS350(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) XCS350(2) R778, OPPO-BDP95, GRACE M902 AMP, PS AUDIO PPP(8) PUREPOWER 1050(4) RGPC 600(8) RGPC 1200(20) RGPC POLE PIG(4) JL GOTHAM SUBS(2) LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U PROJECTOR, SVS LIFT, STEWART STUDIOTEK 110" MOTORIZED SCREEN, ASC ACOUSTIC PANELS & BASS TRAPS, CINEMA-TECH SEATING, SONOS ZP90-W4S MOD, SYMPOSIUM ROLLERBLOCKS, SENNHEISER HD800, GOLD LION TUBES, WIREWORLD GOLD ECLIPSE CABLES & SILVER ELECTRA PC'S
View "The Room" here:
http://www.audioaficionado.org/membe...9-dsc-1198.jpg - - - http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...d-dsc_1208.jpg

CAPE COD
MX150, MC501(2) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MQ109B, MR88, MS750(2) MVP881, MEN220, MCD1100, MDA1000, C1000C, C1000P/T, MPC1500, HT3F(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) CAMBRIDGE NP30, ELITE BDP-09FD, BENCHMARK DAC-1 HDR, BRYSTON BDA-1 DAC, OPPO-BDP95, SPL PHONITOR, PS AUDIO PPP(10) PUREPOWER 1050(4) RGPC 1200(15) JL GOTHAM SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113(2) SOUND ANCHOR SUB STANDS(2) LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U PROJECTOR, STEWART STUDIOTEK 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI, URC MX-6000 REMOTE, NAKAMICHI DRAGON, TEAC X2000R R2R, SONOS ZP90-W4S MOD, ASC ACOUSTIC PANELS & BASS TRAPS, FORTRESS SEATING, HRS DAMPING PLATES & NIMBUS COUPLERS, SYMPOSIUM ROLLERBLOCKS, ULTRASONE ED-10, GOLD LIONS, WIREWORLD GOLD & PLATINUM ECLIPSE CABLES & SILVER ELECTRA PC'S
View "The 2-Channel Room & Theater" here:
http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...0&d=1327845807 - - - http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...d-dsc_3310.jpg
http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...r-dsc_0941.jpg - - - http://www.audioaficionado.org/membe...0-dsc-0956.jpg

Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD TT, CA OUTER RING & CLAMP, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER CART, CLEARAUDIO DOUBLE SMART MATRIX CLEANER, HRS-MXR CUSTOM 4V RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X 1921 SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIGNATURE PHONO-PRE, PS AUDIO PPP, RGPC 1200, WIREWORLD SILVER ECLIPSE CABLES & SILVER ELECTRA PC'S
View "The Analog Rig" here:
http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...e-dsc_2528.jpg - - - http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...d-dsc_3313.jpg

Game Room: BRYSTON BP-26 PRE-AMP, BDA-1 DAC, BDP-1 MEDIA PLAYER, BCD-1 CD PLAYER, MPS-2 POWER SUPPLY, 28B-SST2 MONOBLOCKS, MAGNUM DYNALAB MD-105T TUNER, OLIVE 04HD, CAMBRIDGE UNIVERSAL BR PLAYER, KRELL KID, RGPC 1200(2) PS AUDIO PPP(2) SONUS FABER AMATI FUTURA'S IN RED FINISH, JL AUDIO IWS-SYS-2, SALAMANDER SYNERGY TRIPLE 30 RACK, SONY KDL-52XBR9, URC MX-980 REMOTE, WIREWORLD SILVER ECLIPSE CABLES & SILVER ELECTRA PC'S
View "The Game Room" here:
http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...e-dsc_2459.jpg- - -http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...s-dsc_2736.jpg

New Reference System: BURMESTER 911 MK3 AMP(2), 089 CD PLAYER, 088 PRE-AMP, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP LOADED, 111 MUSIC SERVER, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, DYNAVECTOR XV-1S CART, HRS-SXR CUSTOM 2V-3V-2V RACK w/ M3X 1921 SHELVES, WIREWORLD PLATINUM CABLES & PC'S, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS RED

Could be your lucky day if things work out.....from what I remember Ivan had special pricing on the F212's a while back

As a result of talking with Ivan, I have found that his prices are very fair. And just as important as that is his service which is second to none since he owns, uses, enjoys and is an Aficionado of everything he sells.

I took my time and did research. I was patient and wanted to make sure I made the right choice to sub my system. Now that I have carefully took all the time I need to make this very important decision and I have committed to the purchase of a pair of the 212's, all I can say now is HURRY UP Ivan!

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What I used to have... MCD/MDA1000, Pass Labs XVR1, 501x4, Magnepan 20.1,, JL 212 X 2, Equitech 3Q
- Long Live Two Channel -

Faster than a speeding bullet...

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FLORIDA
MX136, C15, MC206, MC162(2) MC402, MC1.2KW(12) MC2KW(2) MQ109B, MR88, MS300(2) MCD301, MCD1100, MS750(2) MVP881, MCD1000, MDA1000, C1000C, C1000P/T, MPC1500, HT3F(2) WS350(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) XCS350(2) R778, OPPO-BDP95, GRACE M902 AMP, PS AUDIO PPP(8) PUREPOWER 1050(4) RGPC 600(8) RGPC 1200(20) RGPC POLE PIG(4) JL GOTHAM SUBS(2) LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U PROJECTOR, SVS LIFT, STEWART STUDIOTEK 110" MOTORIZED SCREEN, ASC ACOUSTIC PANELS & BASS TRAPS, CINEMA-TECH SEATING, SONOS ZP90-W4S MOD, SYMPOSIUM ROLLERBLOCKS, SENNHEISER HD800, GOLD LION TUBES, WIREWORLD GOLD ECLIPSE CABLES & SILVER ELECTRA PC'S
View "The Room" here:
http://www.audioaficionado.org/membe...9-dsc-1198.jpg - - - http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...d-dsc_1208.jpg

CAPE COD
MX150, MC501(2) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MQ109B, MR88, MS750(2) MVP881, MEN220, MCD1100, MDA1000, C1000C, C1000P/T, MPC1500, HT3F(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) CAMBRIDGE NP30, ELITE BDP-09FD, BENCHMARK DAC-1 HDR, BRYSTON BDA-1 DAC, OPPO-BDP95, SPL PHONITOR, PS AUDIO PPP(10) PUREPOWER 1050(4) RGPC 1200(15) JL GOTHAM SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113(2) SOUND ANCHOR SUB STANDS(2) LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U PROJECTOR, STEWART STUDIOTEK 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI, URC MX-6000 REMOTE, NAKAMICHI DRAGON, TEAC X2000R R2R, SONOS ZP90-W4S MOD, ASC ACOUSTIC PANELS & BASS TRAPS, FORTRESS SEATING, HRS DAMPING PLATES & NIMBUS COUPLERS, SYMPOSIUM ROLLERBLOCKS, ULTRASONE ED-10, GOLD LIONS, WIREWORLD GOLD & PLATINUM ECLIPSE CABLES & SILVER ELECTRA PC'S
View "The 2-Channel Room & Theater" here:
http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...0&d=1327845807 - - - http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...d-dsc_3310.jpg
http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...r-dsc_0941.jpg - - - http://www.audioaficionado.org/membe...0-dsc-0956.jpg

Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD TT, CA OUTER RING & CLAMP, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER CART, CLEARAUDIO DOUBLE SMART MATRIX CLEANER, HRS-MXR CUSTOM 4V RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X 1921 SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIGNATURE PHONO-PRE, PS AUDIO PPP, RGPC 1200, WIREWORLD SILVER ECLIPSE CABLES & SILVER ELECTRA PC'S
View "The Analog Rig" here:
http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...e-dsc_2528.jpg - - - http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...d-dsc_3313.jpg

Game Room: BRYSTON BP-26 PRE-AMP, BDA-1 DAC, BDP-1 MEDIA PLAYER, BCD-1 CD PLAYER, MPS-2 POWER SUPPLY, 28B-SST2 MONOBLOCKS, MAGNUM DYNALAB MD-105T TUNER, OLIVE 04HD, CAMBRIDGE UNIVERSAL BR PLAYER, KRELL KID, RGPC 1200(2) PS AUDIO PPP(2) SONUS FABER AMATI FUTURA'S IN RED FINISH, JL AUDIO IWS-SYS-2, SALAMANDER SYNERGY TRIPLE 30 RACK, SONY KDL-52XBR9, URC MX-980 REMOTE, WIREWORLD SILVER ECLIPSE CABLES & SILVER ELECTRA PC'S
View "The Game Room" here:
http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...e-dsc_2459.jpg- - -http://www.audioaficionado.org/attac...s-dsc_2736.jpg

New Reference System: BURMESTER 911 MK3 AMP(2), 089 CD PLAYER, 088 PRE-AMP, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP LOADED, 111 MUSIC SERVER, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, DYNAVECTOR XV-1S CART, HRS-SXR CUSTOM 2V-3V-2V RACK w/ M3X 1921 SHELVES, WIREWORLD PLATINUM CABLES & PC'S, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS RED

Funds are on the way.

Hot diggidy dog.

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What I used to have... MCD/MDA1000, Pass Labs XVR1, 501x4, Magnepan 20.1,, JL 212 X 2, Equitech 3Q
- Long Live Two Channel -