The JL F112 Thread

[Gordon]

Originally Posted by PHC1

David, have you adjusted and optimized the F112 yet to come to that conclusion? Did you run the ARO, matched the phase to speakers, played around with the crossover slopes, gain, positioning and SPL meter to track your adjustments? It seems to me you may be rushing and jumping to conclusions once again... You just got the sub! Give it a chance. Sounds like I may need to make a house call.

Serge, what is your consultant rate?

David, give it a chance! I had a REL which I thought was a good sub, but after spending the time with the 112's, there really is no comparison.

Gordon

[PHC1]

Originally Posted by Gordon

Serge, what is your consultant rate?

David, give it a chance! I had a REL which I thought was a good sub, but after spending the time with the 112's, there really is no comparison.

Gordon

No charge for friends. I used to also respect REL line of subs and to my ears they were one of the best subs out there. They are still great subs but the JL subs are simply better.

[1KW]

Originally Posted by PHC1

David, have you adjusted and optimized the F112 yet to come to that conclusion? Did you run the ARO, matched the phase to speakers, played around with the crossover slopes, gain, positioning and SPL meter to track your adjustments? It seems to me you may be rushing and jumping to conclusions once again... You just got the sub! Give it a chance. Sounds like I may need to make a house call.

Well... I can't run the ARO because of a microphone issue. When I plug the microphone into the sub. and push the ARO button nothing happens; I am waiting for a new microphone to ship which may help change my impression. Serge if you come over, maybe you could bring your microphone .

[PHC1]

Originally Posted by 1KW

Well... I can't run the ARO because of a microphone issue. When I plug the microphone into the sub. and push the ARO button nothing happens; I am waiting for a new microphone to ship which may help change my impression. Serge if you come over, maybe you could bring your microphone .

Have you tried turning the gain up for the ARO procedure? If need be I can bring my microphone no problem. I fail to see how you can proclaim the Velodyne to be much better if you haven't even optimized the JL sub yet....

[1KW]

Originally Posted by PHC1

Have you tried turning the gain up for the ARO procedure? If need be I can bring my microphone no problem. I fail to see how you can proclaim the Velodyne to be much better if you haven't even optimized the JL sub yet....

Nothing happens when I turn the gain up . The microphone or cable must be bad and I am waiting for a replacement. As far as "how you can proclaim the Velodyne to be much better if you haven't even optimized the JL sub yet.... :" Unless optimization makes the sub louder then it is right now I can't imagine it sounding better Hopefully the optimization will fix the problem

[PHC1]

Originally Posted by 1KW

Nothing happens when I turn the gain up . The microphone or cable must be bad and I am waiting for a replacement. As far as "how you can proclaim the Velodyne to be much better if you haven't even optimized the JL sub yet.... :" Unless optimization makes the sub louder then it is right now I can't imagine it sounding better Hopefully the optimization will fix the problem

If "loud" was the only parameter that audio components were judged by an 18" driver would be the answer to all the problems. Once the sub is setup, you're in for a real surprise my friend. This sub must be optimized like any other to even begin to reap the rewards of such a musical sub. It is fast and tight with superb control, articulation and definition of the low notes. The sub is not a single entity, in order for everything to sound right, it must be blended and phased in with the speakers properly. If you don't take your time doing it, the bass notes will actually cancel each other and the sub will work against the speakers.

[1KW]

Originally Posted by PHC1

If "loud" was the only parameter that audio components were judged by an 18" driver would be the answer to all the problems. Once the sub is setup, you're in for a real surprise my friend. This sub must be optimized like any other to even begin to reap the rewards of such a musical sub. It is fast and tight with superb control, articulation and definition of the low notes. The sub is not a single entity, in order for everything to sound right, it must be blended and phased in with the speakers properly. If you don't take your time doing it, the bass notes will actually cancel each other and the sub will work against the speakers.

As usual you have made some very good points. When it comes to audio

What's better Saturday or Sunday ?

[Masterlu]

David, your new microphone is being sent "Next Day Air"

Deep Breaths,

[1KW]

Originally Posted by Masterlu

David, your new microphone is being sent "Next Day Air"

Deep Breaths,

[Masterlu]

Originally Posted by 1KW

There's the "Happy" David we all know & love.