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Old 09-04-2009, 04:27 PM
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Default 2 JL 113's output

HT Room is 20x20x8
What do you think is possible, for 2 JL113's output (db's) at an 18 foot sitting distance, from the subs.

My cheap SP meter, read 117dbs on a test (Movie).

Is that possible??
Or would the JL shut down?

Thanks for any information, besides turn it down.
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Old 09-04-2009, 04:39 PM
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I can't help you with your question but I've got a question.
How much better did the sound get (for music) when you added the second F113?
I'm considering a second one.
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Old 09-04-2009, 05:08 PM
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It is easilly possible.

My personal experience has been the 2nd Sub makes it perfect. In two different rooms, I found a single JL Sub was too localized.

In my Florida theater I thought I could get away with only one Gotham, I was wrong. In another room, I ran a single F113 then wound up adding the second.

In the Cape, I went straight to a pair of Gothams. That's my story & I'm sticking to it.
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Old 09-04-2009, 09:53 PM
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I can't help you with your question nut I've got a question.
How much better did the sound get (for music) when you added the second F113?
I'm considering a second one.
You won't regret a second sub. It opens up the soundstage even further as well as "fleshing out" instruments to insanely realistic level.
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:17 PM
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Serge,

Maybe I missed this, but are you using your two JL subs with the Sasha's?

Thanks,

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Old 09-04-2009, 10:45 PM
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Serge,

Maybe I missed this, but are you using your two JL subs with the Sasha's?

Thanks,

Stephen
Yep, just fired them up again recently. Crossing over very low at 22Hz since Sasha's don't really need it. Fills out the bottom end very nicely but the Fathoms are pretty bored and are yawning in my system right now.
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:08 PM
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:25 PM
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Serge,

Still using the external X-over?

I thought that you sold the Bryston???
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:30 PM
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Serge,

Still using the external X-over?

I thought that you sold the Bryston???
Not using the Bryston right now since the subs are being crossed over so low and the speakers are running full range anyways. It worked great on the pair of Sonus Faber GM's though. The Bryston is still for sale by the way.
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Old 09-05-2009, 12:35 AM
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I can't help you with your question but I've got a question.
How much better did the sound get (for music) when you added the second F113?
I'm considering a second one.
The 2nd sub opens the soundstage . I have tried it both ways.
I bought one at a time, and spent time with just one JL, to be sure of the difference...
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