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Old 01-08-2012, 03:12 PM
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The EAT 6922s here are expensive...$225 each at Music Direct. I would need to spend $900 on tubes just for my Premier 17...

Yes, they certainly are. I see the Euro at USD1.27. So, using the web site Philippe gave us, even the more expensive Diamond version at EUR160 comes to USD203 and the less expensive Select version at EUR110 comes to about USD140. That's a really substantial difference.
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Old 01-08-2012, 03:41 PM
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euro prices with VAT included
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Old 01-08-2012, 05:15 PM
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The EAT 6922s here are expensive...$225 each at Music Direct. I would need to spend $900 on tubes just for my Premier 17...
Which, aside from the reliability and satisfactory performance I get from them, is why I'm sticking with the stock EH's and using the "saved" $900 to apply toward a speaker cable upgrade. I'd like to do both the EATs and the SC, but....
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Old 01-08-2012, 07:05 PM
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Remember folks - we get the 19% VAT taken off the price if ordering outside the EU
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Which, aside from the reliability and satisfactory performance I get from them, is why I'm sticking with the stock EH's and using the "saved" $900 to apply toward a speaker cable upgrade. I'd like to do both the EATs and the SC, but....
Smart move...I've stuck with the stock tubes in my Premier 17.
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Which, aside from the reliability and satisfactory performance I get from them, is why I'm sticking with the stock EH's and using the "saved" $900 to apply toward a speaker cable upgrade. I'd like to do both the EATs and the SC, but....
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Smart move...I've stuck with the stock tubes in my Premier 17.
Agree guys. When you have two or less it is worthwhile and a bit of fun tube rolling.

4 and above it can get expensive and the stk EH 6922's sound great.
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My view on the whole tube rolling topic is that 95% of the performance of a tube component is coming from the design and parts selection. About 5% can be controlled with different makes of tubes that is assuming you are using a good (known brand) tube to begin with and it is not faulty.
How much you want to spend on that last 5% is any ones personal choice. I personally feel that more tuning of the sound can be achieved with interconnects and power cords.

No disrespect intended this is just my 2c.
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My view on the whole tube rolling topic is that 95% of the performance of a tube component is coming from the design and parts selection. About 5% can be controlled with different makes of tubes that is assuming you are using a good (known brand) tube to begin with and it is not faulty.
How much you want to spend on that last 5% is any ones personal choice. I personally feel that more tuning of the sound can be achieved with interconnects and power cords.

No disrespect intended this is just my 2c.
While I might quibble (and no disrespect here, either, Ron) over whether "tuning" or "unleashing the potential of the system to reproduce" is the more appropriate (or maybe more ego-satisfying ) descriptor, I'd say that my recent experience with IC and PC upgrades and their ability to get me closer to what's embedded in the recorded performance tends, from my perspective at least, to bear you out.

How the cable upgrades implemented thus far have demonstrated the ability of c-j gear not to screw up the music fed to it* has been illuminating, to say the least. Which is why I'd like to complete the synergistic circle (or, more accurately, the loom) with an SC upgrade before even considering whether I want to try the EAT.

*Inelegant, offbeat, and lefthanded way of putting it, perhaps, but it's the ability of control and amplification electronics to stay out of the way that impresses me most. Besides, I'm a southpaw.
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My view on the whole tube rolling topic is that 95% of the performance of a tube component is coming from the design and parts selection. About 5% can be controlled with different makes of tubes that is assuming you are using a good (known brand) tube to begin with and it is not faulty.
How much you want to spend on that last 5% is any ones personal choice. I personally feel that more tuning of the sound can be achieved with interconnects and power cords.

No disrespect intended this is just my 2c.
I do feel tubes can make quite a difference; they really helped my get my PV12 where I wanted it to be.

Regarding cables, I personally am of the opinion that power cords have the biggest effect, more than ICs or speaker cables.
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Old 01-09-2012, 08:29 PM
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I do feel tubes can make quite a difference; they really helped my get my PV12 where I wanted it to be.

Regarding cables, I personally am of the opinion that power cords have the biggest effect, more than ICs or speaker cables.

Funny,

I find speaker cables to have the biggest effect on ones system. My Transparent, Kimber, Nordost and Pure Note speakers cables all sound quite a bit different.
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