Thanks.... I am open to trying other means of isolation than the spikes. I would like to try the speakers as they were designed first. As many times I have auditioned them I never got a chance to listen to them spiked.

I used to pull my guitar rig from the side to the middle of the room to play but got tired of that so I just took the casters off of the cab and left it on the side and the improvement in the bottom end was substantial.

I was reading the write up by someone from Symposium and he even suggested that if a speaker has a specially made plinth you should use the spikes and use one of there isolation shelves or pads under it. I would be willing to give the rollerblocks a try if the spikes don't give me that slight improvement I am looking for. Having everything so close is not helping things either even know the room is well treated. I have listened to the 800Ds with a boulder and ayre setup in a optimum room for listening and all I am missing is some depth and separation from the tight setup. The 600's can move the drivers well so bass is not an issue. Spiking should tighten up the midbass like I hope and I mean it only needs it ever so slightly to my ear.

I have seen numerous 802D's with sound anchor stands and the people always have positive things to say about the improvement but I have never seen a 800D on them.

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Using a small car jack crossed my mind but I never though I could get it under them without damage. I will stop in walmart and take a look at the roller jacks....thanks.

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Could do this....mark the position of your speakers with blue painters tape on the carpet. Roll them all of the way out and spike them. Put the Herbies gliders under the spikes...then slide them back into place. Then remove the gliders.

Cone/Spike Decoupling Glider

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Loudspeaker spikes are more effective when used in conjunction with Herbie's dBNeutralizer decoupling, especially with wood or suspended floors. Likewise, if your spikes couple firmly to your cabinet and are themselves solid and relatively free of coloration, they will complement Herbie's Decoupling Gliders very well by easing some of the workload and making the Gliders even more efficient. (Herbie's Cone/Spike Decoupling Gliders are used under your present spikes or cones.)
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Features fiberglass-reinforced dBNeutralizer(tm) decoupling base and extra-thick brass disk. Fitted into Teflon Magic Sliders, they can be used on virtually any kind of floor, including carpet, with easy-sliding mobility. Extra-deep conical indentation prevents spike from slipping out when lateral pressure is applied. Suitable for audio racks and loudspeakers of virtually any weight.1-3/8" diameter by 1/2" tall.
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Giant Cone/Spike Decoupling Glider with embedded brass disk is ideal for extra-heavy duty, severe vibrational environment, or extra-thick carpet. 2-3/8" wide by .67" tall. Teflon bottom....
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Thanks Klipschfan, that is a good idea. Getting them out to the middle of the room and laying on there side is the way I would like to go. Using the gliders would give me the option to move the speaker around once it is upright and back in position, otherwise once the spikes are buried in the floor they are not going to budge for the final toe in adjustment. With the casters I could move the speakers and just roll them back and they would automatically fall into there place due to the indentation in the carpet. Once I have the spikes on it is going to be hard to get the exact same spot even with taping the floor, so this is going to work well. Now I am only looking at one person to help me instead of three or more

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Krell EVO 707, 600(3), B&W 800D, HTM1D, JL F113(2), Ayre QB-9, Pioneer BDP-23FD, Denon 5910ci, PsAudio PPP, Soloist Premier SE.....Nordost(CAST), Purist Audio, Cardas, Shunyata.....Billy Bags, Symposium, HiFi-Tuning.....GIK acoustics

You Bet!...

Tilting the speakers to one side with the help of some friends is about the only way I can think of other than laying it on its side. The instructions on the 802d indicate you can lay it down and pick it up using the "ball" on top without damage to the speaker.

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Lou,
How did you make out with this?

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It really is easy with two people. My wife and I did the 802D's when I had them.

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Speakers: MBL 111F
Cables: Transparent Ultra MM2 & Reference MM2 & Powerlink MM2x