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Old 11-15-2009, 01:00 AM
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And hear I thought the 501's would be a better match than a single MC205 @200wt pet channel. Am I giving my B&W's more power than they can handle? Guess I won't be upgrading to the 1.k's Will the Sasha's or XR200 be a better choice or perhaps B&W 800D?
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Old 11-15-2009, 01:18 AM
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And hear I thought the 501's would be a better match than a single MC205 @200wt pet channel. Am I giving my B&W's more power than they can handle? Guess I won't be upgrading to the 1.k's Will the Sasha's or XR200 be a better choice or perhaps B&W 800D?
I am afraid to suggest anything to you. The XR200 are rated at 600w, don't know what the Sasha's can take, not about to find out. Maybe a pair of XRT1K's at 1200w, yeah, that should have you covered.
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Old 11-15-2009, 01:32 AM
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Ya but look at the price. Man should I buy amp. What can I really change? The only other coincidence is I have been using the WW equinox 6 i.c. , I just added the Eclipse 5.2 for comparison. Odd coincidence it happenend a week after those were connected. (im not stating those are the reason) They did brighten things up a bit.
So, anything I can buy to test if it really is the tweeter besides my ear? test cd? There is no static of hiss when there not playing anything while the amps are on. but once I play a cd it's easy to hear the static and hiss. I still have 2 years remaining on my warranty, I assume they will cover the 1st incident. how can they prove abuse? which i dont believe Im guilty of. Odd it didnt blow the center speaker which is where 80% were the sound originates in a movie.PHC1 how far have you pushed your Sasha's? Just 2 ch or movies as well?
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Old 11-15-2009, 01:40 AM
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Ya but look at the price. Man should I buy amp. What can I really change? The only other coincidence is I have been using the WW equinox 6 i.c. , I just added the Eclipse 5.2 for comparison. Odd coincidence it happenend a week after those were connected. (im not stating those are the reason) They did brighten things up a bit.
So, anything I can buy to test if it really is the tweeter besides my ear? test cd? There is no static of hiss when there not playing anything while the amps are on. but once I play a cd it's easy to hear the static and hiss. I still have 2 years remaining on my warranty, I assume they will cover the 1st incident. how can they prove abuse? which i dont believe Im guilty of. Odd it didnt blow the center speaker which is where 80% were the sound originates in a movie.PHC1 how far have you pushed your Sasha's? Just 2 ch or movies as well?
Aren't you using the MC205 for the center channel? Have you ever seen it powerguard by the way? It puts out 200w so it may have powerguarded and your center channel is ok with absorbing 200w while the 501s went on to deliver much more power than that to your main speakers.

You don't need a test CD, if you hear static or hiss like you say while playing a CD, you have a problem. I'd try to eliminate and troubleshoot one component at a time, maybe it is something else in your system and not actually blown speakers.
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Old 11-15-2009, 01:46 AM
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I just threw in the center options as a bug in your ear. Just seems that during the explosion it would have radiated from the center to the fronts since the center reproduces most sound during a movie. My center channel is working perfectly. I could connect my i.c. from my MC501's to my MC205 and drive all channels that way. That would eliminate the MC501 as the problem. My only other option is to remove the tweeter from my HTM2D and place it atop one of my 802d's but that alot of work, just to troubleshoot. would be easier and cheaper to call a salesman to my home for a close inspections. besides, they are still under warranty.
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Old 11-15-2009, 02:11 PM
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crytklmass.......Make the telephone call.
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Strange thing happened today Dan.. I disconnected the WW eclipse 5.2 I.C and noticed one one end of the cable (XLR) the shielding was pulled out exposing the cable so I placed my Transparent Ultra MM2 I.C.'s on. switched my amps to 4ohms and so far they sound good. Not sure I understand what happened. Maybe the I.C.'s are bad, they worked great the first week. I did reach behind my stand to straighten up my wires, maybe I pulled something loose (kinda like cable t.v., sometimes you picture is fuzzy but when you move the line the picture comes in perfect). Is there some kind of home test I can try vs. a service call? I never blew a tweeter before. I know what a blown woofer sounds like. There is NO static, I played Pink Floyd "Welcome to the machine" It sounded perfect. The only change was my I.C. and switching to 4 ohms. Weird.. I guess I'll reconnect the WW eclipse and listen to the difference, maybe the XLR termination is bad...hmmmmmmm strange indeed.
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Old 11-15-2009, 04:47 PM
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crytklmass.......That sure would be a blessing if that's all it actually turned out to be. Still, some good infornation about power verses peak power has been offered here, and the maximum power rating of your speakers should be considered every time you crank it up, particularly on movie sound tracks where there is such a huge decible difference between dialog and explosion sound effects.
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Old 11-15-2009, 06:10 PM
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That would be a good ending to a problem if all it is is a bad cable.
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Old 11-15-2009, 06:24 PM
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Let's hope that's it for this problem.
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